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If you get a ticket for 15mph over the speed limit, but prove in court you were only going 5mph over the speed limit, you are innocent. Because the ticket was for 15mph over. Traffic court isn't like criminal court, where you can be found guilty of manslaughter when they were trying to get you for Murder 1. In traffic court, it's all or nothing, zero sum.

Unnecessary, the WSDOT is probably even less knowledgeable about the Pass than anybody. The ticket is a Discovery Pass violation, and to be enforced the parking lot must have signage. If it did not, you

A) is a poor idea, and will not work out in your favor B) is something you'll eventually have to do C) is what you should do in this case. You may or may not be guilty, but it appears that the Ranger is enforcing the pass as a requirement to enter the park, in which case you are innocent, because a Discovery Pass is not a requirement for pedestrians. If you were cited for parking on State Park property along the highway, I believe you would still be innocent, because the lot must be signed.

I'm thinking the only torpedoes those two need are the double ended variety

Insert gag reflex here They won't.

What's the "cause", exactly? All I got was that a married couple wanted to climb a bunch of climbs and ran out of money.... Not to be cynical, but back in the days of my road-trips, running out of money meant going back home and working for a bit. Now if there is a "cause" that I'm not aware of, perhaps I'll feel differently! Seems like they are the cause. I would not say your cynicism is misplaced on these two

You also can't spell worth a shit either You, yourself, may actually be a poseur

A little demanding aren't we? I wasn't aware that you own the internet, this board or this thread. You kind of get what you pay for. I guess you must have taken a big dump this morning, sniffed the air, and said " by god, my shit really doesn't stink".

To each his own I guess. It sounds like those Frenchies were very hard

I would guess not, they are the property of the Don McCune estate http://donmccunelibrary.com/catalog.cfm The one DPS speaks of is "North Cascades". Mount Rainier sounds like it would be cool, a 1968 winter ascent of Liberty Ridge, and I remember watching "Mount McKinley" when it was first shown. Larry Hegerness became deathly ill. "Katmai Climb" with Buzz Merceau is good, as well as the North Slope stuff

I don't think there really is any such think as price collaboration, it is all just collusion in the eyes of the law. And it is probably something that the Fed's in either the DOJ, or even the Dept. of Agriculture may look at, especially if Democrats remain in the Whitehouse.

'rents? You talk like that, and you're in your fifties?

I thought Boyne owned both Crystal and the Summit http://www.boyneresorts.com/

There is active commercial gold mining at the Lone Jack Mine and it's environs, near Twin Lakes and Mt. Larrabee. There are many active mines in the Harts Pass/Azurite Mine area, which is encompassed in the "Head waters of the Skagit" portion of the ALPS proposed increase to NCNP. Most of this mining is of a non-commercial variety. History would suggest that there is little chance of large mining activities occurring or succeeding in the North Cascades. But without 3-D ground penetrating X-Ray glasses, it is all a guess.

Seattle Times article http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2001984553_post21m.html

Previous http://cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/822915/2

http://grantwa.mapsifter.com/default.aspx Their system is a little more ponderous than the iMap I have used in the past. It looks like the entire main areas are safe. Some areas north of the old highway are privately held All the photographs are scenic views with a little real estate artistic license. Imagine that

This looks like a revival of a plan which was discussed a number of years ago. It shouldn't be difficult to go to the county's web-site, and get the property information, likely including a google earth image, from their assessors office. Most counties use iMap. Should take about four minutes with a fast computer. I don't have four minutes right now

Doesn't really impact climbers that I am aware of, except for some present or future choss crags. But definitely a costly impediment for motorized users of the Eatonville and Kaposwin Forests, and all users of the Snoqualmie and White River Forests. I think mountain bikers will be particularly hard hit by the Snoqualmie restrictions http://www.hancockrecreationnw.com/

I didn't read any politico bashing in Joel Connely's editorial. He laid out his own criticisms of some portions of the conservation movement, mainly that they are a roadblock (no pun intended) to recreation and use, even when compared to access levels of forty years ago. He also criticized the dogmatic nature of the NPS. His comments on Doc Hastings revolve on Hastings status as a Congressman from Washington, as well as his Chairmanship of the House Resources Committee. The inclusion of Rick Larson in the conversation is in regards to the need to garner Larson's support, and the fact the many users of USFS lands in Larson's district are angered over the Suiattle Road fiasco. Rightly or wrongly, for the expansion of NCNP to succeed, it is assumed that Maria Cantwell will be the lead politico. As such, a large degree of wheeling, dealing and diplomacy will be involved. Joel Connely is a Puget area editorialist, and as such would be expected to write for the Puget Sound metropolitan area. Would you take a (presumably conservative) editorialist writer from Tonasket to task for stating something similar about the sun rising over the Cascades if he agreed with you? I think not. I don't think that Joel Connely disagrees with you, and your axe grinding against him on this subject does not seem justified

A true hard man

I found Huxley's book either too much of a tome to read, or too much of a rehash. But I do understand that many find it a classic modern study of Scott. The other classic works are Huntford's early revisionist work "The Last Place on Earth", and Ranulph Fiennes revision on revisionism "The Race to the Pole". I found Huntford's work the clearest and most persuasive. Fiennes work was marred by the number of times he had to remind the reader that he, Fiennes, has also sledged to the pole, and as such his view of Scott's is much more accurate and knowledgeable than the milquetoast academic and journalist Huntford's work. In my opinion, Fiennes should consider fucking himself in the ass with the sharp end a ski pole (basket included). Susan Solomon's work "The Coldest March" was totally forgettable and very much akin to Joe Wilcox's "White Winds" and James Tabor's "Forever on the Mountain", and did not dissuade me in the least of my previous opinions

2/3 reviewers review another brand of tent. Can we say "reading comprehension"?

But you are a bear lover. And even you are smart enough to not ask for a reach around

Why should the Ranger have issued a permit in the field for impatient idiots with a huge sense of entitlement? Val Zephyr and her crew of idiots stormed out of the visitor center, and were unable to read a map or to understand simple park back country regulations. And for that, they should be rewarded by having a Ranger go out of their way to issue a BC permit? No way.