denalidave Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 top 10 presidential lies of the past 100 years - go! what i got off the top of my head: "read my lips, no new taxes" "i am not a crook" "i did not have sex with that woman" "we will be greeted as liberators" gotta be more gold to mine there... Those were the exact ones that came to mind at first glance for me. Quote
denalidave Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 Here's another Politifact call-out: Yet another Obama lie Obama said health premiums in the last two years went up slower than any time in the past five decades Why not keep it "fair and balanced" and post up all the Repub lies as well? Certainly, even someone as biased and closed minded as yourself can admit they lie at least as much as our non birth certificated Muslim prez? Oh, wait, that might be asking a bit much from our resident CC righty extremo sprayer commando in chief... Well, if you and your fellow lefty nutjobs would step back and do a little self assessment from time to time, my services here wouldn't be necessary. Sorry I interrupted your circlejerk. BTW, when is the last time you posted fair-and-balanced? I've regularly criticized the Rs--most recently when they pulled that idiotic govt shutdown. How about you, Fairguy? Fair enough... I don't trust Obama and the dems any more than I do the R's. Good enough, tough guy? "services here" - If you are referring to the entertainment value of your rants, then, thank you for your "service". Otherwise, that is pretty rich, indeed... Services. Quote
Fairweather Posted December 21, 2013 Author Posted December 21, 2013 Here's another Politifact call-out: Yet another Obama lie Obama said health premiums in the last two years went up slower than any time in the past five decades Why not keep it "fair and balanced" and post up all the Repub lies as well? Certainly, even someone as biased and closed minded as yourself can admit they lie at least as much as our non birth certificated Muslim prez? Oh, wait, that might be asking a bit much from our resident CC righty extremo sprayer commando in chief... Well, if you and your fellow lefty nutjobs would step back and do a little self assessment from time to time, my services here wouldn't be necessary. Sorry I interrupted your circlejerk. BTW, when is the last time you posted fair-and-balanced? I've regularly criticized the Rs--most recently when they pulled that idiotic govt shutdown. How about you, Fairguy? Fair enough... I don't trust Obama and the dems any more than I do the R's. Good enough, tough guy? Um, if you could provide an example of this, that'd be great. I really don't mind libs so much, but I do hold a pretty high degree of contempt for libs who pose as "moderates." The sad thing is how often they end up believing their own faux persona. You and Rob both come to mind here. Now, as you were, Fairguy. Quote
Fairweather Posted December 21, 2013 Author Posted December 21, 2013 top 10 presidential lies of the past 100 years - go! what i got off the top of my head: "read my lips, no new taxes" "i am not a crook" "i did not have sex with that woman" "we will be greeted as liberators" gotta be more gold to mine there... 1916: "He kept us out of war!" 2013: "I didn't set a red line, the world set a red line." Quote
olyclimber Posted December 21, 2013 Posted December 21, 2013 definitely wouldn't put the "redline" quote on par with the others above. surely you've got something better on Obama than that. better to draw on his campaign promises vs. what really happened...but then just about any president in recent history has that problem. Quote
Fairweather Posted December 21, 2013 Author Posted December 21, 2013 (edited) Hard to say. Still, I'd put Obama's "if you like the insurance you have, you can keep it (period)" head and shoulders above anything on Ivan's list. I think history will record it this way too. Of course, Woodrow's lie was the costliest... Edited December 21, 2013 by Fairweather Quote
olyclimber Posted December 21, 2013 Posted December 21, 2013 i am not a crook" "i did not have sex with that woman" those have to be tops, they are just out right lies....the rest are just failures to hold a promise. Quote
denalidave Posted December 21, 2013 Posted December 21, 2013 Hard to say. Still, I'd put Obama's "if you like the insurance you have, you can keep it (period)" head and shoulders above anything on Ivan's list. I think history will record it this way too. Of course, Woodrow's lie was the costliest... Come on now over "I am not a crook" and/or "Read my lips, no new taxes" both are bald face lies above and beyond the semantics of "you can keep your healthcare"... I'm not defending Obama's lie, just saying it is a bit less straight forward than the other two. Quote
denalidave Posted December 21, 2013 Posted December 21, 2013 "I did not chop down that cherry tree." Myth or truth, I can't recall? Quote
olyclimber Posted December 21, 2013 Posted December 21, 2013 "read my lips no new taxes" was not a lie when he said it. it was just another failed campaign promise like all the other presidents. Quote
denalidave Posted December 21, 2013 Posted December 21, 2013 FW - I consider myself a conservatively liberal moderate. As well as a recovering, shoved down my throat while growing up, righty tighty... Quote
olyclimber Posted December 21, 2013 Posted December 21, 2013 failed promises do mean more then they were the cornerstone of your platform. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted December 21, 2013 Posted December 21, 2013 "Listening to Silence". Have you read it? Quote
Fairweather Posted December 21, 2013 Author Posted December 21, 2013 (edited) failed promises do mean more then they were the cornerstone of your platform. Obamacare was the cornerstone of his entire domestic agenda. I'd say the lie he told to get that one last vote in the Senate was far more damnable than any campaign promise. This is why the public no longer supports the ACA, and it is the reason his approval numbers are now as low as GW's. Edited December 21, 2013 by Fairweather Quote
olyclimber Posted December 21, 2013 Posted December 21, 2013 it was bush's fault, duh. anyway, enjoy this turd of thread. I did my deuce in it, and I'm done. Merry Xmas! Quote
ivan Posted December 21, 2013 Posted December 21, 2013 Obamacare was the cornerstone of his entire domestic agenda. universal healthcare was the cornerstone of his domestic agenda, not the specific piece of legislation that has come to be called obamacare that was the product of the divided government system our Supremely Brilliant Founders cooked up and that so frequently fails to please any of the parties participating in it Quote
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