RedMonk Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 just read in the New York TImes that the frenchies are thinking about backing us in a move against Iraq and they also see more and more U.S. support from European nations... this is after the 'proof' that brittain and the U.S. have said the posess... is this 'Anti-yank' mentality waning? sure looks like it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 That's just because France knows that we're going to war and doesn't want to look like the bad guy by not supporting the effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg_W Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 No, RedMonk, their anti-America, anti-Israel sentiment is not waning. It's called swaying with the wind; much like the Vichy Government during WWII. They'll back our play, maybe send a token military force and then shit all over us right after it's over. Screw them, we don't need them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 I agree, who needs em? They're a second rate army anyway...just get in the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 where would we be without climber bbs military analysts? in big trouble, that's where. thank goodness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 France has nukes. weapons of mass destruction. Invade em! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 they're too stupid to be a threat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleblebleb Posted December 20, 2002 Share Posted December 20, 2002 Thank goodness. Â Indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedMonk Posted December 20, 2002 Author Share Posted December 20, 2002 true dat! anyone who bends over and takes it [insert DFA joke here] from the likes of hitler doesn't seem to be a strong allie (militarily anyways).... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ade Posted December 21, 2002 Share Posted December 21, 2002 Vichy Government during WWII. ... Screw them, we don't need them. Â Maybe you should read up on Vichy France before making such sweeping generalizations. Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedMonk Posted December 21, 2002 Author Share Posted December 21, 2002 what's your point ade? they were pussies...they freaking let in the most sadistic murderer into their country to occupy it... i fail to see the point that you are making as the article reiterates the fact that the frechies, because of fear, accepted occupation to avoid conflict... mabe you dont think that is cowardly, but i think no matter what the odds, you must fight against any enemy of humanity... there areinstances of smaller countries in eastern europe putting up passive or even active resistance against the nazis and geting their asses kicked...i will raise a glass to that but i would pour a glass on top of the heads of vichy french politicians... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexual_chocolate Posted December 21, 2002 Share Posted December 21, 2002 Are you guys for real? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineK Posted December 21, 2002 Share Posted December 21, 2002 If I remember my history right, the Vichy government was a small group supported by the Nazis. The vast majority of French hated the Germans, and a bunch fought against them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ade Posted December 21, 2002 Share Posted December 21, 2002 AlpineK - That would be exactly my point. Another interesting thing is that both the British and Americans recognized the Vichy Government for some period of time and generally ignored De Gaulle's Free French. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleblebleb Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 Are you guys for real? Â It's the Cascadeclimbers.com alternate history theme week, get with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineK Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 I don't think RedMonk got good grades in history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedMonk Posted December 23, 2002 Author Share Posted December 23, 2002 AlpineK - That would be exactly my point. Another interesting thing is that both the British and Americans recognized the Vichy Government for some period of time and generally ignored De Gaulle's Free French. Â actually...the reason for this was because churchill hated degaulle and thought that the free france leader was wrought with fascist tendancies...and as retalliation...degaulle got his revenge 20 years later...any guesses as to what it was? c'mon alpine k...since you are so good at critiquing other's historical prowess...mabe you would like to answer this one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedMonk Posted December 23, 2002 Author Share Posted December 23, 2002 oh...and your boy de gaulle...he ran like a pussy to england (england no less!) when his country was invaded by the germans... it is no wonder that the liberals on this site back him... imagine that...the liberals backing a person who ran during danger of war...wait who was the last president who did that? uhmm...i think his name was william clinton... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedMonk Posted December 23, 2002 Author Share Posted December 23, 2002 alpine k....quit researching on the internet! it is cheating... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineK Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 (edited) I'm a little confused what exactly did Clinton run from? Â Yeah De Gaulle ran from a overwhelming military force. So did the British at the beginning of WW2. RedMonk you would run too. Â BTW I remember when you first started posting here you weren't conservative and now you are. Kids these days Edited December 23, 2002 by AlpineK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedMonk Posted December 23, 2002 Author Share Posted December 23, 2002 are you serious!?!?! i was in the military when i started posting here! haha! i'll give you a hint what billy boy did...one word: North.... i assure you though... i am and always have been a good ol' boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineK Posted December 23, 2002 Share Posted December 23, 2002 North Korea? Well thats your opinion, and a stupid one as usual. Â Even now most South Koreans still want to talk with the North. Â But that's a big can of worms that I really don't have the interest to argue over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedMonk Posted December 23, 2002 Author Share Posted December 23, 2002 haha that wasn't waht i had in mind there pal...try again? or has my inadequate grasp of history stumped ya? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedMonk Posted December 23, 2002 Author Share Posted December 23, 2002 here are some more hints....ROTC, London surely with google you can find this one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedMonk Posted December 23, 2002 Author Share Posted December 23, 2002 one more... "After I signed the ROTC letter of intent I began to wonder whether the compromise I had made with myself was not more objectionable than the draft would have been, because I had no interest in the ROTC program in itself and all I seemed to have done was to protect myself from physical harm. " -bill clinton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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