j_b Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Are you ever graduating from high school or did you finally drop out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 GIMME SUM SUGAH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_b Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 some people want free love; yet, others want a kick in the ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted June 30, 2011 Author Share Posted June 30, 2011 Great News - see below! Â For all types of cancer among men, there were about 56 deaths per 100,000 for those with at least 16 years of education, compared with 148 deaths per 100,000 for those with no more than 12 years of school. For women, the rate was 59 per 100,000 for the most educated and 119 per 100,000 for the least educated. People with a high-school education or less died from lung cancer at a rate four to five times higher than those with at least four years of college education. More than a third of premature cancer deaths could have been avoided if everyone had a college degree, cancer-society officials estimated. Â Also noted elsewhere: the median income for iron-man level triathaletes is $126,000, and virtually all of them are college graduates. I'm sure that their rates of death from premature cancer are considerably lower as well. Â Want to graduate from college, earn a high income, and reduce your risk of dying prematurely from cancer even more than you would by simply attending college courses? Participate in triathalons. Post-hoc, ergo propter hoc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prole Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 According to USA Triathlon, 49% of triathletes report white-collar jobs and 19% report professional jobs such as doctor, lawyer or accountant. It's not clear how they could achieve these positions simply by participating in triathlons, but the connection to higher education is a bit easier to trace... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 j-b, could you personally deliver that much needed kick in the ass to JayB? Â Thanks, Â The rest of us... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Or perhaps inserting a second stick up his ass might refocus the pedantry a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted June 30, 2011 Author Share Posted June 30, 2011 According to USA Triathlon, 49% of triathletes report white-collar jobs and 19% report professional jobs such as doctor, lawyer or accountant. It's not clear how they could achieve these positions simply by participating in triathlons, but the connection to higher education is a bit easier to trace... Â Now we're getting somewhere, at long last. Â And the connection between participating in a leisure activity that requires immense amounts of persistence, sacrifice, discipline, deferred gratification and getting into and completing college is...completely random? Something that happens only after someone sits in a lecture hall for X number of hours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 According to USA Triathlon, 49% of triathletes report white-collar jobs and 19% report professional jobs such as doctor, lawyer or accountant. It's not clear how they could achieve these positions simply by participating in triathlons, but the connection to higher education is a bit easier to trace... Â Now we're getting somewhere, at long last. Â And the connection between participating in a leisure activity that requires immense amounts of persistence, sacrifice, discipline, deferred gratification and getting into and completing college is...completely random? Something that happens only after someone sits in a lecture hall for X number of hours? Â It's amazing what a shitty job college has done at developing Comrade Prole's analytical skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prole Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 According to USA Triathlon, 49% of triathletes report white-collar jobs and 19% report professional jobs such as doctor, lawyer or accountant. It's not clear how they could achieve these positions simply by participating in triathlons, but the connection to higher education is a bit easier to trace... Â Now we're getting somewhere, at long last. Â And the connection between participating in a leisure activity that requires immense amounts of persistence, sacrifice, discipline, deferred gratification and getting into and completing college is...completely random? Something that happens only after someone sits in a lecture hall for X number of hours? Â Just like getting into college, participating in leisure activities that require immense amounts of persistence, sacrifice, discipline, deferred gratification is a fuckofalot of an easier proposition for some people than others. It's that rising inequality thing you seem incapable of addressing again! Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Just like getting into college, participating in leisure activities that require immense amounts of persistence, sacrifice, discipline, deferred gratification is a fuckofalot of an easier proposition for some people than others. Â Â JayB: 1 Prole: 0 Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_b Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 According to USA Triathlon, 49% of triathletes report white-collar jobs and 19% report professional jobs such as doctor, lawyer or accountant. It's not clear how they could achieve these positions simply by participating in triathlons, but the connection to higher education is a bit easier to trace... Â Now we're getting somewhere, at long last. Â nowhere close to denial of the income factor in enabling access to post-secondary education, if it's what you mean. Â And the connection between participating in a leisure activity that requires immense amounts of persistence, sacrifice, discipline, deferred gratification and getting into and completing college is...completely random? Something that happens only after someone sits in a lecture hall for X number of hours? Â Well, much of what student learn in school is in fact about persistence, etc, but they also learn about cultures/sports they may not have been exposed to prior to that point. A college education isn't the only way to get there, but it is one of the best way for people born in surroundings unable to afford discovery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_b Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 UW Hikes Tuition 20 Percent; Largest Increase Ever As had been widely expected, the University of Washington Board of Regents approved a 20 percent resident undergraduate tuition hike this morning, from $8,701 to $10,574, the largest increase in tuition and fees ever. Following two consecutive years of 14 percent increases, the in-state cost of an undergraduate education will have increased by 55 percent over three years.  Over that same period, the state legislature has cut funding for higher education by more than 50 percent. Hmm. I wonder if there's a connection?  ASUW Government Relations Director Andrew Lewis decries the move as "another step in the direction of privatization."  More: http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2011/06/30/8871392-uw-hikes-tuition-20-percent-largest-increase-ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Â There's no such thing as a free lunch, j_bot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_b Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 tell that to your type who apparently believes that an educated citizenry/workforce falls out of trees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 tell that to your type who apparently believes that an educated citizenry/workforce falls out of trees. Â Time for austerity! Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 There's no such thing as a free lunch, j_bot! Â You really don't think there's anything wrong with what's going on at the UW? Pretty severe tuition hikes. Would you be fine if they completely privatized it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Â You really don't think there's anything wrong with what's going on at the UW? Pretty severe tuition hikes. Would you be fine if they completely privatized it? Â Costs are going up for a variety of fucked up reasons - some of which I'd love to roll back (and you'd probably vehemently oppose). Â Rising costs will hurt me just like it will you in about 10 years or so, Rob. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wetslide Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 haha that is cheap compared to where I went to school! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephH Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 You really don't think there's anything wrong with what's going on at the UW? Pretty severe tuition hikes. Would you be fine if they completely privatized it? Costs are going up for a variety of fucked up reasons... Yep, two and half wars that in direct, indirect, and replenishment costs will run three trillion and Bush's [unproductive] tax cuts at 2.35 trillion. The wars come to $60 billion per state and the tax cuts at $47 billion per state - basically $10.7 billion per year per state. Â As someone with a daughter with one more year at UW I suppose we'll go ahead and pay what will be 55% increases over the time she's been in college - but anyone who doesn't realize where the money went is blind, delusional, or both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 You really don't think there's anything wrong with what's going on at the UW? Pretty severe tuition hikes. Would you be fine if they completely privatized it? Costs are going up for a variety of fucked up reasons... Yep, two and half wars that in direct, indirect, and replenishment costs will run three trillion and Bush's [unproductive] tax cuts at 2.35 trillion. The wars come to $60 billion per state and the tax cuts at $47 billion per state - basically $10.7 billion per year per state. Â As someone with a daughter with one more year at UW I suppose we'll go ahead and pay what will be 55% increases over the time she's been in college - but anyone who doesn't realize where the money went is blind, delusional, or both. Â When I was in the UC system tuition went up from about $550 per quarter to well over a thousand. This has been going on for decades. Blame Bush, yawn - the stupid one track record is getting boring. There are many reasons costs of universities (both public and private) are rising. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Latest RNC bulletin: Â IS MORE EDUCATION REALLY A GOOD IDEA? Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prole Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 There are many reasons costs of universities (both public and private) are rising. Â At the same time Americans' ability to pay is shrinking. But hey, don't get your panties in a bunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 There are many reasons costs of universities (both public and private) are rising. Â At the same time Americans' ability to pay is shrinking. But hey, don't get your panties in a bunch. Â You're the one who whines about your student loans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prole Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Only $13,000 left. More than manageable. Thank god I finished school just as Bush, Greenspan, Gramm and the gangbanksters were pulling the rug out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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