G-spotter Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 so what would be the negative consequences of getting rid of free trade again? NZ prices for NA domestic auto quality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Conway Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 At the very least sometimes working unpleasant jobs that are way below what you are qualified for can keep you afloat long enough to get your foot in the door at the right place. It doesn't work that way anymore.... but touching none the less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 You sure seem quiet on the demofucks and Obama's tax breaks for the rich. hard to defend the undefendable - democrats appear unable or unwilling to break the republican childish distaste for anything remotely related to taxation - if reagan and bush 1 could raise taxes, and if clinton era levels of taxation could be compatible w/ the biggest expansion in our history, why would it make the baby jesus cry now to return to the past? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prole Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Don't worry, the Citizens United ruling is going to level the campaign-finance playing field so that poor individuals and groups that need services can compete against anti-tax corporations and billionaires to "make their voices heard". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Your post-double major in Biochemistry and History/minor in Chemistry story is truly inspiring! Far more impressive than your libtard education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Your post-double major in Biochemistry and History/minor in Chemistry story is truly inspiring! [/human cautionary tale] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prole Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Oh, I didn't say it wasn't impressive, I just don't think it's going to be very inspiring to unemployed 50 year olds with similar levels of education (much less those without) now waiting for their "big break". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prole Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Your post-double major in Biochemistry and History/minor in Chemistry story is truly inspiring! [/human cautionary tale] Yes, learn ye well, follow my example and alas, you may end up...posting in Spray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 At the very least sometimes working unpleasant jobs that are way below what you are qualified for can keep you afloat long enough to get your foot in the door at the right place. It doesn't work that way anymore.... but touching none the less Yeah - some jobs are going away forever - like a significant percentage of the construction jobs that only materialized as a result real-estate bubble in the history of the world. Even if trying to squander trillions more fully-reflate the real estate bubble wasn't profoundly retarded, there isn't enough real wealth in the US to do so. They're going to have to find other lines of work. Anyone who tells them otherwise really isn't helping them. Programs that help them make the transition are good - trying to pretend that the bubble is going to reflate, or squandering trillions trying to reflate it isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Oh, I didn't say it wasn't impressive, I just don't think it's going to be very inspiring to unemployed 50 year olds with similar levels of education (much less those without) now waiting for their "big break". The point wasn't to be inspire anyone. It was to point out that I'm one of millions of people who have found themselves having to work unpleasant jobs that were orders of magnitude below what they might feel like their education and training qualify them to do, just to get by. That's life. I was eventually lucky enough to land in one that had a path to something better. Much less likely to happen if you stay out of the workforce entirely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Life isn't fair. Ask these guys. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health/canadian-surgeons-face-flat-lining-job-market/article1920006/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prole Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 The point wasn't to be inspire anyone. It was to point out that I'm one of millions of people who have found themselves having to work unpleasant jobs that were orders of magnitude below what they might feel like their education and training qualify them to do, just to get by. That's life. Mystery solved. You should take this show on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Yeah - some jobs are going away forever - like a significant percentage of the construction jobs that only materialized as a result real-estate bubble in the history of the world. Government jobs for everyone! Who wouldn't want to be part of the government overlord class? We can keep borrowing from the Fed to pay for them. In fact, maybe we should try to outsource all those Government clerical jobs to China. They'd be posting in spray a lot less than some of these guys, and as non-native English speakers probably be more legible when they were posting how superior they were as well. Then we could all live life's resembling a rich mans cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_b Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 What is this drivel? Public sector employees are certainly not an "overlord class" as is reflected in their compensation being smaller than private sector workers with comparable education. Enough "catapulting of the propaganda" Billcoe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_b Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Here we go again: JayB is still pretending that real wages haven't gone down for most people over the last 30 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prole Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Hey, that's life. Fairer for some than others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_b Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 This winner takes all philosophy appears to be quite pathological as even some of its victims think it's great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Conway Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Yeah - some jobs are going away forever - You mean most of the non-McDonalds services you've been touting for a decade? Those are going, going gone.... we should all go to work in medicine and government Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 At the very least sometimes working unpleasant jobs that are way below what you are qualified for can keep you afloat long enough to get your foot in the door at the right place. It doesn't work that way anymore.... but touching none the less Yeah - some jobs are going away forever - like a significant percentage of the construction jobs that only materialized as a result real-estate bubble in the history of the world. Even if trying to squander trillions more fully-reflate the real estate bubble wasn't profoundly retarded, there isn't enough real wealth in the US to do so. They're going to have to find other lines of work. Anyone who tells them otherwise really isn't helping them. Programs that help them make the transition are good - trying to pretend that the bubble is going to reflate, or squandering trillions trying to reflate it isn't. THE ANSWER IS HIGH SPEED TRAINS!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 we should all go to work in medicine and government which will be one and same if j_b and prole have their way. just think how wages and pensions will be with 100% government employment and nobody in the public sector to tax! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prole Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 America is becoming the rigid, class-bound Europe its immigrants sought to escape more and more every day. Economic liberalism's ultimate irony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Conway Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 which will be one and same if j_b and prole have their way. just think how wages and pensions will be with 100% government employment and nobody in the public sector to tax! hey, it's the end game for the policies Jay_B advocates too - he just doesn't realize it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prole Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 All his bullshit jumped the shark a few years ago. As we're seeing in Wisconsin, it's all power/no persuasion now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Here we go again: JayB is still pretending that real wages haven't gone down for most people over the last 30 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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