ivan Posted February 23, 2011 Posted February 23, 2011 is it that governmetn employees aren't "tradesmen?" Quote
Choada_Boy Posted February 23, 2011 Posted February 23, 2011 Each parent should pay $19.50 a day for these teachers to baby-sit their children. Now how many students do they teach in a day...maybe 30? So that's $19.50 x 30 = $585.00 a day. More like 90+. Please recalculate. Quote
j_b Posted February 23, 2011 Posted February 23, 2011 out of curiosity, i read the wiki-blurb on "collective bargaining" - what does the Great Group Brain make of this snippet: "The right to collectively bargain is recognized through international human rights conventions. Article 23 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights identifies the ability to organize trade unions as a fundamental human right. Item 2(a) of the International Labour Organization's Declaration on Fundamental Principles and Rights at Work defines the "freedom of association and the effective recognition of the right to collective bargaining" as an essential right of workers." Article 23 1. Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment. 2. Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work. 3. Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection. 4. Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests. Article 24 Everyone has the right to rest and leisure, including reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic holidays with pay. Article 25 1. Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control. 2. Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection. Quote
rob Posted February 23, 2011 Posted February 23, 2011 workers rights???? FUCKING COMMUNIST!!!!! Quote
j_b Posted February 23, 2011 Posted February 23, 2011 in 1976, after the Covenants had been ratified by a sufficient number of individual nations, the Bill took on the force of international law [..] The Universal Declaration was adopted by the General Assembly on 10 December 1948 by a vote of 48 in favour, 0 against, with 8 abstentions (all Soviet Bloc states [i.e., Byelorussia, Czechoslovakia, Poland, Ukraine, The USSR and Yugoslavia], South Africa and Saudi Arabia).[11] The following countries voted in favour of the Declaration: Afghanistan, Argentina, Australia, Belgium, Bolivia, Brazil, Burma, Canada, Chile, China, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Denmark, the Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Egypt, El Salvador, Ethiopia, France, Greece, Guatemala, Haiti, Iceland, India, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Liberia, Luxembourg, Mexico, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Pakistan, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Philippines, Thailand, Sweden, Syria, Turkey, United Kingdom, United States, Uruguay, Venezuela.[12] Despite the central role played by Canadian John Humphrey, the Canadian Government at first abstained from voting on the Declaration's draft, but later voted in favour of the final draft in the General Assembly.[13 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Declaration_of_Human_Rights Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted February 23, 2011 Posted February 23, 2011 Yeah, whatev... Collective bargaining rights are fundamental to OUR basic values - first amendment and all that. I'm not really sure anyone hear gives a rip whether the Dutch approve or not.... Quote
prole Posted February 23, 2011 Posted February 23, 2011 Uh, I sure as hell do. Would love to see Scott Walker brought up on international human rights violations, customary or otherwise. Perhaps someone should suggest it to some of the European unions. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted February 23, 2011 Posted February 23, 2011 An excellent project to get behind. Good luck with it. Quote
prole Posted February 23, 2011 Posted February 23, 2011 (edited) Yeah, I daresay it might get some headlines when these people can use all the help they can get. Edited February 23, 2011 by prole Quote
j_b Posted February 23, 2011 Posted February 23, 2011 Yeah, whatev... Collective bargaining rights are fundamental to OUR basic values - first amendment and all that. I'm not really sure anyone hear gives a rip whether the Dutch approve or not.... The point was that the United States signed the declaration, and that it goes way beyond collective bargaining. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted February 23, 2011 Posted February 23, 2011 The game we've been playing internationally for a long, long time is "How to appear less like the total dicks that we really are" - which may be one reason why no one takes that shit seriously anymore. Quote
j_b Posted February 23, 2011 Posted February 23, 2011 I think it has more to do with the current crop of Regressives who are so far to the right they might as well join the John Birch Society (see Ron Paul giving the most important talk at their convention almost every year). Although they were already pretty fucked up, do you remember 25 years ago when they (and Reagan) claimed that belonging to a union was a most elemental right? When they kissed Solidarnosc and Walesa on both butt cheeks? Quote
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