keenwesh Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 does this get done with any regular frequency? sounds like a classic hard route for washington but I've never heard of anyone doing it. does it have the sketch bolts that failed on calling wolfgang or something? I am nowhere near skilled enough to climb it I just want to hear some history! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keenwesh Posted July 1, 2010 Author Share Posted July 1, 2010 I guess it's really not done often at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
counterfeitfake Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 Not really an answer, but I ran across an article on Climbing.com the other day that includes a blurb about this route: Â http://www.climbing.com/exclusive/features/index_279/index4.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 Not really an answer, but I ran across an article on Climbing.com the other day that includes a blurb about this route: http://www.climbing.com/exclusive/features/index_279/index4.html  Cool series of articles on Index Town Walls at Climbing.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keenwesh Posted July 3, 2010 Author Share Posted July 3, 2010 that's a good article, index has a really interesting climbing history. anyone know who's working Amandla? I was there last saturday and there were hanging draws, didn't see anyone on it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 that was a brit and a dude from squamish working amandla earlier this week. rise and fall seems to get attempted a bit here and there but i have yet to hear about anybody sending it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallstein Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 I tried this route yesterday. Maybe the hardest route I've been on at Index. I think this would be a harder redpoint than Town Crier (5.12+) or Green Drag-on (5.13-) Â This is the ultimate sandbag! I've heard people say that maybe some holds have broke but I doubt this is the case. The hardest parts are on perfect rock and have no visible signs of broken holds. The real problem is that there just aren't that many holds... The only pitch I sent was the 5.10 pitch. The other three pitches (5.12a, 5.11D, 5.11b) took some serious figuring out before I could do the moves, like 10 tries on the 11b. Â This is an amazing route and deserves a full redpoint at some point. Â I've also heard rumors that this thing never saw a second free ascent. I doubt that is true but in all reality I wouldn't be that surprised that anyone who has seriously tried it got their ego hurt to much to see the project through. Â Anyone know about the history? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kukuzka1 Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 is that the andy deklerk route? hes hardcore strong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el jefe Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 i believe "rise and fall" was greg child's route, but the phrase "hardcore strong" would apply to greg as well. i don't know anything about a second ascent. darryl cramer would be the person to ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jens Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 Yet another Index route with a laughable rating.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RICHARD_CILLEY Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 Did the 11b pitch on TR today.Seemed about right .Wallstein musta been having a bad day.Afterwards I tred the 11c pitch on Good girls like Bad Boys.It was notably harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallstein Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Not sure it was just me having a bad day. I've heard a few others finding it to be pretty hard. Â Was our chalk still up there? Maybe that and a top-rope made it feel easier? Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 TR would definitely change the character... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevetimetravlr Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Who da guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwallben Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 The Sharp End! Gnarly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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