summitchaserCJB Posted April 21, 2010 Author Posted April 21, 2010 there is nothing "definitive" about a guide... But it's definitive when you say the guide is wrong? Quote
eldiente Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 Thin Fingers is a real joy to climb, although it does climb like a 2x mellow 5.10 pitches separated by a short boulder problem. Compared to other .11s up there it feels fairly mellow. Quote
RuMR Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 there is nothing "definitive" about a guide... But it's definitive when you say the guide is wrong? my bad...you are right...every guidebook is always right on everything...its not a guide, its a MANUAL and its printed in BLACK AND WHITE... I'm telling you my opinion of what that route should be graded and most people that climb that route agree with me... feel free to continue to rate it how you feel appropriate and i will continue to laugh at you... Quote
RuMR Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 Thin Fingers is a real joy to climb, although it does climb like a 2x mellow 5.10 pitches separated by a short boulder problem. Compared to other .11s up there it feels fairly mellow. no...its solid 5.11...the *guidebook* says SO! Quote
summitchaserCJB Posted April 21, 2010 Author Posted April 21, 2010 I really don't care if you laugh at me or not. I could really care less. A guide is based on the consensus of a portion of the climbing community. Now in this particular case I think you're right about thin fingers I was just trying to make the point that the original guidebook had a 10d/11a grade on thin fingers. Quote
RuMR Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 (edited) why don't you do a poll and then you'll feel all warm and fuzzy and accomplished?? Edited April 21, 2010 by RuMR Quote
summitchaserCJB Posted April 21, 2010 Author Posted April 21, 2010 Am I serious about adding a poll? Yes. Quote
Crillz Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 my bad...you are right...every guidebook is always right on everything...its not a guide, its a MANUAL and its printed in BLACK AND WHITE... Somes is in color nowadayz! PS. The 50' handcrack on HOC is 10a. Compare it to any of the other 10a handcracks close by. Quote
summitchaserCJB Posted April 21, 2010 Author Posted April 21, 2010 Crillz- Yes. Especially compared to BOC. Quote
summitchaserCJB Posted April 21, 2010 Author Posted April 21, 2010 (edited) whoops Edited April 22, 2010 by summitchaserCJB Quote
kukuzka1 Posted April 22, 2010 Posted April 22, 2010 Is that the newest guidebook? 1993? clint cummings Quote
TamaraSlade Posted April 22, 2010 Posted April 22, 2010 http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6445935/ Quote
charlieburnett Posted April 22, 2010 Posted April 22, 2010 Also, try free-soloing GNS on a busy Sunday with a rope on your back, and a full rack clipped to your harness. Then video tape yourself on a 5.9 boulder problem. That would be sick! Four cams and nuts isn't a full rack buddy. Where I'm from, Four cams and nuts IS a full rack. Quote
summitchaserCJB Posted April 22, 2010 Author Posted April 22, 2010 Also, try free-soloing GNS on a busy Sunday with a rope on your back, and a full rack clipped to your harness. Then video tape yourself on a 5.9 boulder problem. That would be sick! Four cams and nuts isn't a full rack buddy. Where I'm from, Four cams and nuts IS a full rack. Hardman! Quote
RuMR Posted April 22, 2010 Posted April 22, 2010 http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6445935/ hahahaha...that is AWESOME!!!!!! Quote
summitchaserCJB Posted April 22, 2010 Author Posted April 22, 2010 I wish I could see it. It is blocked at work! Quote
Rad Posted April 22, 2010 Posted April 22, 2010 summit, newsflash: the internet records all of your annoying gadfly tactics for the whole world to see for all eternity. Avatar anonymity is a sham as anyone with half a brain will eventually connect you to you. Try sharing some positive energy here and you may find partners and friends. Or you can just keep digging your hole deeper and end up a grouchy old geezer who hates bolts. Golden rule... cheers, Radrigo Quote
summitchaserCJB Posted April 22, 2010 Author Posted April 22, 2010 Don't take me too seriously. Quote
summitchaserCJB Posted April 22, 2010 Author Posted April 22, 2010 Also, try free-soloing GNS on a busy Sunday with a rope on your back, and a full rack clipped to your harness. Then video tape yourself on a 5.9 boulder problem. That would be sick! Four cams and nuts isn't a full rack buddy. Where I'm from, Four cams and nuts IS a full rack. West Seattle? Quote
summitchaserCJB Posted April 22, 2010 Author Posted April 22, 2010 Which group were you in Charlie? Quote
ClimbingPanther Posted April 22, 2010 Posted April 22, 2010 Since summit hasn't discovered the "spray" forum yet (literally, check his post history!), I'll take this moment to re-direct your attention to an excellent video and a fun game to try and guess who it's about. And since you are adept at spraying encyclopedic volumes, you might want to spend some more time there in the future and spare the informative side of this website from being drowned in nonsense. Quote
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