Dhamma Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 Ive got a Marmot Pinnacle 15Deg bag I use for backpacking and non-winter mountaineering, but I'm planning on doing a few 14ers this winter and I think a warmer bag would be needed and I'm looking for advice. I'm considering getting a below zero rated bag like the Western Mountaineering Puma -25 or the Feathered Friends equivalent, but I'm wondering also if a 0 Degree bag like the Western Mountaineering Kodiak might be sufficient. I don't want to have to buy another bag if I decide to do a bigger mountain some day. Advice? Quote
kevbone Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 Ive got a Marmot Pinnacle 15Deg bag I use for backpacking and non-winter mountaineering, but I'm planning on doing a few 14ers this winter and I think a warmer bag would be needed and I'm looking for advice. I'm considering getting a below zero rated bag like the Western Mountaineering Puma -25 or the Feathered Friends equivalent, but I'm wondering also if a 0 Degree bag like the Western Mountaineering Kodiak might be sufficient. I don't want to have to buy another bag if I decide to do a bigger mountain some day. Advice? It all depends on you. Some people sleep cold and others sweat there assess off while sleeping. My wife is a polar bear and is almost never cold. I get cold quickly. Quote
Pete_H Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 What the fuck do you know about winter mountaineering? You've never even climbed anywhere besides Beacon. Quote
t_rutl Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 you dont have to climb in the winter to know if you sleep on the cold or warm side...and it is a very relevant point Quote
t_rutl Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 imo i think a 15 deg and 0 deg can be made close when it comes to comfort...you could sleep with an extra layer or two on and prob get similar results...if you sleep on the cold side and/or you think you'll be doing larger mountains pursue a -20...if you sleep on the warm side and prob wont hit up a larger mountain (even if you do you can rent for that 3 week period) pick up a 0 degree...marmot lithium is a nice one to look as well as the ones you mentioned Quote
kevbone Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 What the fuck do you know about winter mountaineering? You've never even climbed anywhere besides Beacon. Why is it that this was posted by Dirty Hairy a second ago and now its from Pete? mmmmm? Quote
billcoe Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 I need a bag for winter mountaineering... Bags are $25 but have a lot of stems, seeds and shake in them at that price. ps, I think Feather Friends or Western Mountaineering bags are the way to go. Much higher quality down. Quote
Bug Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 I just got a nice 20 degree bag from the REI scrathc and dent sale. Weighs less than pound so now I can throw in my insulated P3D pants and Das Parka. Quote
Pete_H Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 ...and it is a very relevant point Yeah. Just brilliant. Quote
denalidave Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 I just got a nice 20 degree bag from the REI scrathc and dent sale. Weighs less than pound so now I can throw in my insulated P3D pants and Das Parka. For some reason this does not sound quite right... a 20 degree bags that weighs less than 1 pound? Is it a half bag or sumpin? Quote
Dhamma Posted October 28, 2009 Author Posted October 28, 2009 (edited) I need a bag for winter mountaineering... Bags are $25 but have a lot of stems, seeds and shake in them at that price. ps, I think Feather Friends or Western Mountaineering bags are the way to go. Much higher quality down. not my bags bro. haha. we don't do seeds and sticks in norcal. I just picked this up for 545 shipped in long WM Lynx Edited October 28, 2009 by Dhamma Quote
Khartoum Wood Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 im a cold sleeper i use my -40 dark star North Face sleeping synthetic its extra weight but theres nothing worse than waking up with the chills. Quote
111 Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 dude, a friend brought a dark star on a kayak trip; that thing is ridiculous. Antarctica is the only place you could ever have that be necessary! Dhamma, another vote for a down 0 deg. You dont need amy more than that. Extra layers/downy jacket will provide enough extra if you feel you might need it. below that, you better be doing some gnarly high altitude or alaska winter camping Quote
Bug Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 I just got a nice 20 degree bag from the REI scrathc and dent sale. Weighs less than pound so now I can throw in my insulated P3D pants and Das Parka. For some reason this does not sound quite right... a 20 degree bags that weighs less than 1 pound? Is it a half bag or sumpin? You were right. http://www.rei.com/product/731678 29 oz. It just feels so light though. Quote
johndavidjr Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 I near froze my ass off once due to sleeping in down in Wal-Mart tent in blizzard and getting drenched with condensation collected on waterproof floor. For some years following I swore off down. My winter bag was NF minus-twenty job. In fear I took it on a few autumn trips and wrecked its loft by stuffing it over a couple of weeks. Back to mainly using 30-yr-old REI down sleeping bag (now always with light bivy sack). Not extremely warm, but not a pain in ass to pack, and can be supplemented with various clothes. Have mainly sworn off the tent floors. Quote
jhamaker Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 Can't go wrong w/ Feathered Friends. One option would be to buy a FF overbag for your 15 deg. bag. That would give you three sleeping choices instead of two. Quote
RobJames Posted October 31, 2009 Posted October 31, 2009 Don't buy a new bag. Use the bag you've got. Wear all your warm clothes. Build decent windbreak-walls 'round your tent. Take some hot water bottles. Boil the snow, fill the bottles. Wear a balaclava. And snack on a bit of chocolate (stored in your bag) in the early hours to replenish energy and morale. A decent sleeping pad may well be the bigger concern. If it's too cold-a-suffering for the above. Then you can stay warm sleeping under your bed at home. Keep warm, but stay cool Quote
Dhamma Posted October 31, 2009 Author Posted October 31, 2009 i bought a Western Mountaineering -10 Lynx in the Microfiber XP Quote
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