Behold: Our Health Care system - current

[Fairweather]

If America is so great, how come I get this 100% common answer from so many foreigners who I pose this question:

 

Q: Would you want the American health care system in your country?

 

A: No.

 

Then why are they here? I'm sick of people who come here and immediately set about complaining and trying to remake America into the place they left. Idiots.

[rob]

If America is so great, how come I get this 100% common answer from so many foreigners who I pose this question:

 

Q: Would you want the American health care system in your country?

 

A: No.

 

Then why are they here? I'm sick of people who come here and immediately set about complaining and trying to remake America into the place they left. Idiots.

 

You're right, people who move here have no right to attempt to improve their adopted country.

[tvashtarkatena]

Didn't you get the memo? Some citizens are more American than others.

[mattp]

You're right, people who move here have no right to attempt to improve their adopted country.

 

Worse than that is where they claim that any aspect of life or politics or some government program in some other country is better than ours.

[pc313]

[Fairweather]

If America is so great, how come I get this 100% common answer from so many foreigners who I pose this question:

 

Q: Would you want the American health care system in your country?

 

A: No.

 

Then why are they here? I'm sick of people who come here and immediately set about complaining and trying to remake America into the place they left. Idiots.

 

You're right, people who move here have no right to attempt to improve their adopted country.

 

Trying to impose or whine for government health care is not "improvement". It's like walking into MacDonalds for a meal and complaining about how unhealthy the food is. Eat somewhere else.

Edited August 27, 2008 by Fairweather

[Fairweather]

Didn't you get the memo? Some citizens are more American than others.

By Stefan's definition--"foreigners"--are not citizens, dumbass.

[mattp]

Is trying to impose your beliefs on a nation where most people actually support the idea of universal healthcare an improvement?

[Fairweather]

Is trying to impose your beliefs on a nation where most people actually support the idea of universal healthcare an improvement?

 

If the manner in which they propose to do it is either unconstitutional or collectivist in nature, then no. If you pose the question in such simpleton form then it's not surprising you get the result you're looking for, Matt.

[mattp]

If the manner in which they propose to do it is either unconstitutional or collectivist in nature, then no. If you pose the question in such simpleton form then it's not surprising you get the result you're looking for, Matt.

 

Say what?

[glassgowkiss]

 

If the manner in which they propose to do it is either unconstitutional or collectivist in nature, then no. get the

 

but it's right up your ally you closet commie puke.

[Fairweather]

If the manner in which they propose to do it is either unconstitutional or collectivist in nature, then no. If you pose the question in such simpleton form then it's not surprising you get the result you're looking for, Matt.

 

Say what?

 

You claim that "most people" here want universal health care. I have to assume you once again have a Google-survey that backs up your statement, so its fair to ask how the question was framed. A question like that rarely addresses the manner or mechanisms by which we would arrive at your goal. Survey question for dummies: "Would you like everyone in America to have free health care for life?" Duhhh...ummmm...sure...uhhh...I guess....

[Fairweather]

 

If the manner in which they propose to do it is either unconstitutional or collectivist in nature, then no. get the

 

but it's right up your ally you closet commie puke.

 

Fuck off Pole pussy.

[AlpineK]

but it's right up your ally you closet commie puke.

 

[rob]

If America is so great, how come I get this 100% common answer from so many foreigners who I pose this question:

 

Q: Would you want the American health care system in your country?

 

A: No.

 

Then why are they here? I'm sick of people who come here and immediately set about complaining and trying to remake America into the place they left. Idiots.

 

You're right, people who move here have no right to attempt to improve their adopted country.

 

Trying to impose or whine for government health care is not "improvement". It's like walking into MacDonalds for a meal and complaining about how unhealthy the food is. Eat somewhere else.

 

So, it's OK for them to try to improve our country, unless their goals are deemed by you to be "wrong?"

 

People in America have every right to try and implement whatever changes they want, be it communistic, socialistic, fascistic, "collectivistic" or otherwise. That's what's great about America. Even the constitution can be changed. Nobody gets to decide which changes are on the approved list for immigrants to bring up.

[Fairweather]

If America is so great, how come I get this 100% common answer from so many foreigners who I pose this question:

 

Q: Would you want the American health care system in your country?

 

A: No.

 

Then why are they here? I'm sick of people who come here and immediately set about complaining and trying to remake America into the place they left. Idiots.

 

You're right, people who move here have no right to attempt to improve their adopted country.

 

Trying to impose or whine for government health care is not "improvement". It's like walking into MacDonalds for a meal and complaining about how unhealthy the food is. Eat somewhere else.

 

So, it's OK for them to try to improve our country, unless their goals are deemed by you to be "wrong?"

 

People in America have every right to try and implement whatever changes they want, be it communistic, socialistic, fascistic, "collectivistic" or otherwise. That's what's great about America. Even the constitution can be changed. Nobody gets to decide which changes are on the approved list for immigrants to bring up.

 

And I have a right to lobby for and express support for tighter immigration laws; no?

[rob]

If America is so great, how come I get this 100% common answer from so many foreigners who I pose this question:

 

Q: Would you want the American health care system in your country?

 

A: No.

 

Then why are they here? I'm sick of people who come here and immediately set about complaining and trying to remake America into the place they left. Idiots.

 

You're right, people who move here have no right to attempt to improve their adopted country.

 

Trying to impose or whine for government health care is not "improvement". It's like walking into MacDonalds for a meal and complaining about how unhealthy the food is. Eat somewhere else.

 

So, it's OK for them to try to improve our country, unless their goals are deemed by you to be "wrong?"

 

People in America have every right to try and implement whatever changes they want, be it communistic, socialistic, fascistic, "collectivistic" or otherwise. That's what's great about America. Even the constitution can be changed. Nobody gets to decide which changes are on the approved list for immigrants to bring up.

 

And I have a right to lobby for and express support for tighter immigration laws; no?

 

Of course.

 

What are we arguing about again?

[Fairweather]

We're not!!!!!!

[KaskadskyjKozak]

If America is so great, how come I get this 100% common answer from so many foreigners who I pose this question:

 

Q: Would you want the American health care system in your country?

 

A: No.

 

Then why are they here? I'm sick of people who come here and immediately set about complaining and trying to remake America into the place they left. Idiots.

 

You're right, people who move here have no right to attempt to improve their adopted country.

 

Trying to impose or whine for government health care is not "improvement". It's like walking into MacDonalds for a meal and complaining about how unhealthy the food is. Eat somewhere else.

 

So, it's OK for them to try to improve our country, unless their goals are deemed by you to be "wrong?"

 

People in America have every right to try and implement whatever changes they want, be it communistic, socialistic, fascistic, "collectivistic" or otherwise. That's what's great about America. Even the constitution can be changed. Nobody gets to decide which changes are on the approved list for immigrants to bring up.

 

And I have a right to lobby for and express support for tighter immigration laws; no?

 

Of course.

 

What are we arguing about again?

 

Could we please get to discussing Global Warming now, damn it! Fuck Health Care - we need to save the fucking planet!

 

[Fairweather]

Have you ever noticed how every "crisis" that comes along is little more than leverage pushing toward less freedom and more government? Who are the willing dupes?

[rob]

Have you ever noticed how every "crisis" that comes along is little more than leverage pushing toward less freedom and more government? Who are the willing dupes?

 

Yes, like "border patrol" inspections along interior highways.

[KaskadskyjKozak]

Have you ever noticed how every "crisis" that comes along is little more than leverage pushing toward less freedom and more government? Who are the willing dupes?

 

Yes, like "border patrol" inspections along interior highways.

 

Which FW has stated clearly he opposes.

 

Can we discuss the Climate Change Crisis now?

 

 

[Fairweather]

Have you ever noticed how every "crisis" that comes along is little more than leverage pushing toward less freedom and more government? Who are the willing dupes?

 

Yes, like "border patrol" inspections along interior highways.

 

See my comments in that thread. How do you reconcile your desire for govt services and programs with your love of freedom?

[KaskadskyjKozak]

Have you ever noticed how every "crisis" that comes along is little more than leverage pushing toward less freedom and more government? Who are the willing dupes?

 

Yes, like "border patrol" inspections along interior highways.

 

See my comments in that thread. How do you reconcile your desire for govt services and programs with your love of freedom?

 

He loves the freedom of the hills.

 

[Fairweather]

They all seem to have a really hard time answering that one. Especially our resident curmudgeon.