Don_Chicho Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 As a heads up, there was a report from a climbing party that when up at Silverstar last weekend, thieves burglarized a van, but not for the van itself or the contents inside, but for the catalytic converter and tailpipe/muffler assembly (sawed clean off). These were vehicles parked at Washington Pass along Hwy 20 for the approach to Silverstar. Now there is yet ANOTHER thing to worry about when parking at the trailheads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra_Commander Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 this is a well-known issue among toyota tacoma 4wd truck owners. I've already had mine replaced once after someone sawed out mine. Fun times. Â For example: Â http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4176/is_20060410/ai_n16143183 Â Be sure to get your replacement welded on really well, though in my case, they just sawed it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recycled Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 (edited) Yup, $30 or so in meth money per converter. Mostly a problem for SUVs and trucks as it is too much hassle to get under a car. Some converters in B'ham have been ripped in the mall parking lot. Â Oh, and don't forget those aluminum rims. They're pretty quick to steal too whether for the metal or for resale on Craigslist. Edited May 16, 2008 by Recycled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bug Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 How do you spell releif? 3-5-7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recycled Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 How do you spell releif? 3-5-7 Â I spell it relief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 Yup, $30 or so in meth money per converter. Â more proof that drugs are harmless and can be used recreationally. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underworld Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 Yup, $30 or so in meth money per converter. Â more proof that drugs are harmless and can be used recreationally. Â drugs are increasing global warming too... see, now this guy's van is polluting even more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 this is a well-known issue among toyota tacoma 4wd truck owners. I've already had mine replaced once after someone sawed out mine. Fun times. For example:  http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4176/is_20060410/ai_n16143183  Be sure to get your replacement welded on really well, though in my case, they just sawed it out.  I think the new standard in tweaker-deterrent practice will be a move in the other direction - quick-release clips and stashable, weather-proof cases built to look like logs...  Incidentally - what'd it cost to replace the cc on your truck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra_Commander Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 It was about $230, and the guy was pretty sympathetic. He said it was the 6th toyota he had done in the past few weeks. Since the stock cat on the old tacomas is a bolt-on, it's really easy to drive up along side it and get in there with a wrench. The guy welded on my new one, but obviously that won't stop someone with a sawzall, which is what was used to remove mine. At least it made my 4-cylinder tacoma sound like a harley for a brief period of time, but it's probably pretty dangerous to drive around with unfiltered hot exhaust dumping out directly under the cab, with the gas line, my lungs, and whatnot nearby. Â Mine was stolen from a park'n'ride in Vancouver, WA. Not super busy, but definitely public and visible. Â I wonder what the total cost of meth is on the pnw community. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bug Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 How do you spell releif? 3-5-7 Â I spell it relief. Are you a recycled Catbirdseat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 It was about $230, and the guy was pretty sympathetic. He said it was the 6th toyota he had done in the past few weeks. Since the stock cat on the old tacomas is a bolt-on, it's really easy to drive up along side it and get in there with a wrench. The guy welded on my new one, but obviously that won't stop someone with a sawzall, which is what was used to remove mine. At least it made my 4-cylinder tacoma sound like a harley for a brief period of time, but it's probably pretty dangerous to drive around with unfiltered hot exhaust dumping out directly under the cab, with the gas line, my lungs, and whatnot nearby. Mine was stolen from a park'n'ride in Vancouver, WA. Not super busy, but definitely public and visible.  I wonder what the total cost of meth is on the pnw community.  I'd be willing to chip in for something like the NW Forest Pass, with the proceeds going to a pool dedicated to providing enough meth to tweakers to keep their collective fiendage beneath the catalytic-converter-scavenging threshold.  Maybe you could work some kind of geocaching riff into the distribution to keep them occupied a bit longer, and introduce a healthy outdoor twist on the typical tweaker lifestyle...   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirp Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 I posted before but this was in my front yard...granted I live on the East Side...still pretty brazen. Thankfully it was original 17 years old, as the shop guy said, was prolly empty and of ZERO value. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 Yup, $30 or so in meth money per converter. Â more proof that drugs are harmless and can be used recreationally. Â more proof that drug prohibition isn't solving the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whirlwind Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 if drugs were leagal, wouldn't crime go down hasnt this been proven in other countries? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraysovereign Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 If drugs were legalized, only legals would have drugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 if drugs were leagal, wouldn't crime go down hasnt this been proven in other countries? Â No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 if drugs were leagal, wouldn't crime go down hasnt this been proven in other countries? Â No. Â Yea, the tweakers would stop stealing car parts from trail heads IF ONLY meth were legal. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 I still can't believe there are people who think like that. Â http://www.drugfree.org/Portal/DrugIssue/MethResources/faces/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Conway Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 I still can't believe there are people who think like that  Me neither. So why shouldn't gays marry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Got no problem with it. Unrelated subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dechristo Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 I still can't believe there are people who think like that  http://www.drugfree.org/Portal/DrugIssue/MethResources/faces/index.html  Me neither. So why shouldn't gays marry? Got no problem with it.  You two should quit mething around, get a room, and bemoan your exhaust system repairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirp Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 I still can't believe there are people who think like that. http://www.drugfree.org/Portal/DrugIssue/MethResources/faces/index.html  Man thats slightly disturbing...only because over the last 7 years of working and living on the East side of Tacoma, I have seen regulars in my neighborhood deteriorate just like that. Fekking sad and nasty at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mattp Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 The Department of Justice reported that at year-end 2003, federal prisons held a total of 158,426 inmates, of whom 86,972 (55%) were drug offenders. By comparison in 2000 federal prisons held 131,739 total inmates of whom 74,276 (56%)were drug offenders, and in 1995 federal prisons held a total of 88,658 inmates of whom 52,782 (60%) were drug offenders. Source: Harrison, Paige M. &Allen J. Beck, P hD, US Department of Justice, Bureau of Justice Statistics, Prisoners in 2005 (Washington, DC: US Department of Justice, November 2006), p. 10, Table 14. Â Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattp Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 The drug war reflects a political arrogance that the government can solve bad habits by passing laws and sending police out on the streets to arrest the way to an improved society. The collateral damage of this arrogance is clear. It is time to end the drug war, to seek education, treatment, product labeling and testing, and a more orderly yet much less profitable market for the measure of drug usage, which society cannot stem or prevent, with or without force. www.drug-war.us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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