vertical_hiker Posted December 19, 2007 Author Share Posted December 19, 2007 If you are truly surprised by this response, rather than just annoyed that your post didn’t sail smoothly by the attention of those who don’t share your beliefs, then you are truly oblivious to the world around you...We are not weak minded fools who have made the decision not to believe in a Christian god lightly. Most of us have given some measure of consideration. Belief is a choice. If this were untrue, there would be people who believed but did not want to and people who wanted to believe but couldn’t. This is not the case; belief *is* a choice. So, given the constant, inescapable bath of Christianty and Jesus-talk in America, how can you presume that any climbers “need to hear” the Good News? It seems very arrogant that you would think it was your place and role to put your religion in climbers’ faces. They have heard it all ad nauseum. If they wished to pursue it, they would. Add your frikkin guitar and that’s a tasin’. When you are saying you're not weak-minded or needing a security blanket, and calling us "arrogant",...sorry anyone who blows irrational chunks on a mountain climber's post in judgement, with a measure of intolerance sounds like they're afraid, and weak-minded to me. It's obvious a few of you are offended and afraid. That's fine with me. Maybe we're all weak minded, some are just better at admitting it. Btw, I don't recall any of Jesus' followers passing out security blankets when they followed him? Another thing, as I read some of these posts, I can't help but to laugh at how you think all Christians are going to get in your face and try and convert you. Please stop. Quit whining! Stop building strawmen, and feeling proud that you're tearing them down,...you're not saying anything new. Cliche's everywhere. Get over your prejudices, you're probably not going to Denali anyway next year, and if so, we'll probably be passing by... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lI1|1! Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 (edited) blah Edited December 19, 2007 by lI1|1! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawks Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 I just need to know what kind of beer the volcano produces, how hot the strippers are, and how interested they'll be in chain-doinking me for all of eternity before I sign on the dotted line... Join the Muslims they get 64 virgins to doink for all eternity for being good little human bomb boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vertical_hiker Posted December 19, 2007 Author Share Posted December 19, 2007 just some of 'em Vertical Hiker should not have expected a solidly warm reception on this bulletin board and he's going to have to expect some people to be quite hostile if he introduces himself to other climbers on Mt. McKinley by saying "Hi. I"m here for a Cristian climb..." btw, no such thing as "Christian climb" just like there is no such thing as Christian music. Music is music, and climbing is climbing. Our group is here for a climb on the mountain to reach the summit, and along the way, we're going to represent Christ. I know not to expect a "warm reception," but I was too ideal to expect most to believe not all Christians are the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineK Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 vertical hiker Your posting here for the amusement factor you provide. Sure some folks agree with you, but a lot of posters are laughing at and not with you. To your credit you did come up with a good topic to fill up 14 and counting pages. I'm curious what credentials your group has to be out to help others on the mountain. Are some of your group EMTs? Doctors? Dentists? Do any of you know CPR? How do you augment the rangers and doctors at the 14 grand camp? I have faith that you're good at passing out waterproof religious packets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexual_chocolate Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 i love the tolerance shown by the self-proclaimed liberal seattle tolerant! too funny.... yeah let's give shit to anyone who talks about believing in god, as long as it's not bob marley. "bend down low....." f'ing hypocrites, the lot of ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucK Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 ...and Jimmy Carter. Don't forget Jimmy Carter. (in terms of a Christian we like, not hypocrite) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 if god/jesus is such a hot product, one wouldn't have to sell it. it would sell it self. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 i love the tolerance shown by the self-proclaimed liberal seattle tolerant! too funny.... yeah let's give shit to anyone who talks about believing in god, as long as it's not bob marley. "bend down low....." f'ing hypocrites, the lot of ya. How do you define tolerance? For me it means acknowledging and respecting the legal rights of people with opinions that differ from my own. That's it. IMO so long as you abide by the strictures defined above, you can still be defined as tolerant towards a group of people that you openly, actively despise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexual_chocolate Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 yeah and let's not talk about climbing anymore either, cuz you know, climbing sells itself. dumbass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexual_chocolate Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 i love the tolerance shown by the self-proclaimed liberal seattle tolerant! too funny.... yeah let's give shit to anyone who talks about believing in god, as long as it's not bob marley. "bend down low....." f'ing hypocrites, the lot of ya. How do you define tolerance? For me it means acknowledging and respecting the legal rights of people with opinions that differ from my own. That's it. IMO so long as you abide by the strictures defined above, you can extend tolerance to persons that you actively despise. yes yes we all know you're a law and order type of guy, blah blah blah heard it before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 i love the tolerance shown by the self-proclaimed liberal seattle tolerant! too funny.... yeah let's give shit to anyone who talks about believing in god, as long as it's not bob marley. "bend down low....." f'ing hypocrites, the lot of ya. How do you define tolerance? For me it means acknowledging and respecting the legal rights of people with opinions that differ from my own. That's it. IMO so long as you abide by the strictures defined above, you can extend tolerance to persons that you actively despise. yes yes we all know you're a law and order type of guy, blah blah blah heard it before. So what's your working definition? IMO my version is more likely to hold when the chips are down than the lefto-PC "Celebrate Diversity" version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineK Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 i love the tolerance shown by the self-proclaimed liberal seattle tolerant! too funny.... yeah let's give shit to anyone who talks about believing in god, as long as it's not bob marley. "bend down low....." f'ing hypocrites, the lot of ya. If some of us were truly intolerant than vertical hiker would not be posting on the board or have a locked topic detailing the basic facts regarding his groups trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawks Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 yeah and let's not talk about climbing anymore either, cuz you know, climbing sells itself. dumbass. :lmao: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexual_chocolate Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 i love the tolerance shown by the self-proclaimed liberal seattle tolerant! too funny.... yeah let's give shit to anyone who talks about believing in god, as long as it's not bob marley. "bend down low....." f'ing hypocrites, the lot of ya. How do you define tolerance? For me it means acknowledging and respecting the legal rights of people with opinions that differ from my own. That's it. IMO so long as you abide by the strictures defined above, you can extend tolerance to persons that you actively despise. yes yes we all know you're a law and order type of guy, blah blah blah heard it before. So what's your working definition? my working definition is you're a dumbass, just like pink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexual_chocolate Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 i love the tolerance shown by the self-proclaimed liberal seattle tolerant! too funny.... yeah let's give shit to anyone who talks about believing in god, as long as it's not bob marley. "bend down low....." f'ing hypocrites, the lot of ya. If some of us were truly intolerant than vertical hiker would not be posting on the board or have a locked topic detailing the basic facts regarding his groups trip. nice ruse. sounds like it sold itself to ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexual_chocolate Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 yeah and let's not talk about climbing anymore either, cuz you know, climbing sells itself. dumbass. :lmao: hey don't get too cozy, bud. i'm still waiting for your response regarding the council of nicea. dumbass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 (edited) yeah and let's not talk about climbing anymore either, cuz you know, climbing sells itself. dumbass. i've been climbing all over things my whole life and someone was always telling me to stop, but i don't listen. i've been getting god/jesus shoved down my throat my whole life and i've been telling them to stop and they won't listen. as far as the dumbass comment goes, well, i forgive you. Edited December 19, 2007 by pink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 yeah and let's not talk about climbing anymore either, cuz you know, climbing sells itself. dumbass. :lmao: because god only likes people who stroke his ego. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawks Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 yeah and let's not talk about climbing anymore either, cuz you know, climbing sells itself. dumbass. :lmao: hey don't get too cozy, bud. i'm still waiting for your response regarding the council of nicea. dumbass. Huh??? On a roll lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_forester Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 that reminds me, I'm trying to get a group together this weekend to hike up to the summit of Mt Tabor & witness for the Elder Gods. We've got some tracts to hand out, who's in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsroll Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 oh dan chimed in thread offically dead...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_forester Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 just for that you're coming with me to hand out tracts in the rain, will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 i love the tolerance shown by the self-proclaimed liberal seattle tolerant! too funny.... yeah let's give shit to anyone who talks about believing in god, as long as it's not bob marley. "bend down low....." f'ing hypocrites, the lot of ya. How do you define tolerance? For me it means acknowledging and respecting the legal rights of people with opinions that differ from my own. That's it. IMO so long as you abide by the strictures defined above, you can extend tolerance to persons that you actively despise. yes yes we all know you're a law and order type of guy, blah blah blah heard it before. So what's your working definition? my working definition is you're a dumbass, just like pink. Thus spake the man with the multiple neg-AM I/O arms... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsroll Posted December 19, 2007 Share Posted December 19, 2007 That is Mr. Roll to you By the way what are you doing this weekend? How about this call me biznatch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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