Greg_W Posted November 8, 2002 Author Posted November 8, 2002 quote: Originally posted by mwills: if you want to buy one crampon i'd vote for the sabertooth. though a bit on the heavy side (34oz), they can be used for everything - moderate/steep ice, snow slogging, mixed. you will see gadd pulling m10 or some weekend warrior front-pointing up the pearly gates. step-in, new matic, or strap-on - that is up to you. depends on the assortment of boots/shoes you plan to where. if you only wear boots that are step-in compatible, get step-ins. i've never heard of the toe-bail "failing". i've seen crampons attached incorrectly, sized wrong, or bails that didn't match the welt on the boot - but no failures. After an icestorm in Ames, I'm sure I will see you wearing yours just to walk to the McDonald's! Quote
Cpt.Caveman Posted November 8, 2002 Posted November 8, 2002 bails that didn't match the welt on the boot - but no failures. this more of a true description of what I was referring to as a failure. I call it failure to design a crampon properly so I pick the design that is better which I already noted. Quote
Coondog Posted November 8, 2002 Posted November 8, 2002 These things just look nutty. See the pic in the new BD catalog of Will Gadd hanging upside down on just these goofy spurs?? Must be handy for motivating your snafflehound to move faster too... Quote
thelawgoddess Posted November 8, 2002 Posted November 8, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Elvis: Charlet Moser Dart yeah, baby!!! Quote
Cpt.Caveman Posted November 8, 2002 Posted November 8, 2002 The spurs are nothing new to the crampon world. I know the DMM have had them for at least 2-3 years. Something in my clouded memory suggests there were others too. [ 11-08-2002, 10:42 AM: Message edited by: Cpt.Caveman ] Quote
thelawgoddess Posted November 8, 2002 Posted November 8, 2002 you can get spurs for the grivel rambocomps. Quote
Greg_W Posted November 8, 2002 Author Posted November 8, 2002 quote: Originally posted by thelawgoddess: you can get spurs for the grivel rambocomps. I've got spurs for you, honey...chaps and a Stetson, too! Quote
thelawgoddess Posted November 8, 2002 Posted November 8, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Greg W: I've got spurs for you, honey...chaps and a Stetson, too! yee-haw, gregw! don't forget your saddle, your shit-kicking boots ... and your sharp-shooter! Quote
Greg_W Posted November 8, 2002 Author Posted November 8, 2002 quote: Originally posted by thelawgoddess: quote:Originally posted by Greg W: I've got spurs for you, honey...chaps and a Stetson, too! yee-haw, gregw! don't forget your saddle, your shit-kicking boots ... and your sharp-shooter! I'm on it...SADDLE UP!!! Quote
Mantung_Poon Posted November 8, 2002 Posted November 8, 2002 You drift off topic again sprayer, be careful, Mattp could say "you guys suck". Quote
Off_White Posted November 8, 2002 Posted November 8, 2002 There you go again Ray... I'm a stingy retro kind of guy, and I'm still using my old Salewa's with neoprene straps. Say what you will, they're not very heavy, fit any shoe I own, and they've never come off. Recent reports of lost crampons on Eldorado and Shuksan have made me appreciate that. That said, they're pretty minimal for steep waterfall ice, and messing with straps is unpleasant when its really cold. Quote
Cpt.Caveman Posted November 8, 2002 Posted November 8, 2002 OW those are actually great crampons. I dont suggest not looking at them. I dont have them because I am a shitty climber with poor technique. Quote
Nick Posted November 9, 2002 Posted November 9, 2002 I use both the aluminum and steel Stubais. The aluminum with the strap-on bindings (because you can then use the ultra light crampon with very light boots). I use the heel clamp combined with plastic toe strap binding on the steel crampons. These hurt my heels until I learned not to make the safety strap too tight. I like both crampons, but agree with the comment that the buckle on the strap (both bindings) is too flimsy. When mine was bent it stoped working, but it was no problem to put a cuple of half hitches in the strap to keep it from coming loose. If I ever get around to it I'll get some of the straps (used on most other brands) that have the buckles made of two simple steel rings. I like the Stubai crampons a lot. I would say that boots are a much more important variable than crampons! Quote
Greg_W Posted November 11, 2002 Author Posted November 11, 2002 Thanks for all the input, guys. Gotta send out some props to Todd and crew at Feathered Friends who let us in Saturday evening after they were closed to pick up a pair of Sabertooths clips. Thanks, guys Bad news is the wife bought them as a Christmas present and now she's hidden them Greg W Quote
RobBob Posted November 11, 2002 Posted November 11, 2002 At least your wife bought'em for you. I keep my Sabertooths hidden from my wife... Quote
Keith Posted November 11, 2002 Posted November 11, 2002 Anyone know if you can convert a pair of Charlet Moser crampons that have straps to step in or semi-automatic crampons? I got a pair real cheep but would prefer to not have to hassle with the straps. Quote
sketchfest Posted November 11, 2002 Posted November 11, 2002 Here's one, my son has a pair of Grivel G-10's that his shoe size has now outgrown the max adjustment. Will the G-12 adjustment bar work in the G-10's? For as little as he climbs snow right now, I do not want to buy a new pair. Quote
rbw1966 Posted November 11, 2002 Posted November 11, 2002 Buy new ones for yourself, make him use your old ones. Voila! Feed the rat and justify it at the same time. Quote
sketchfest Posted November 11, 2002 Posted November 11, 2002 Unfortunately I just bought new ones a couple of seasons ago and their still in great shape. Quote
rbw1966 Posted November 11, 2002 Posted November 11, 2002 Couple of seasons ago??!?! Are you insane, man!! Surely your wife has been informed of the potential failure of crampons due to micro-fractures that develop over time while using them on the bullet-proof styrofoam snow and crystallized mud of the cascades? If not you should absolutely point to this groundbreaking research and increase your gear budget accordingly. If not, I have a pair of scottish (strapon) style crampons I'd part with for pretty cheap. Quote
sketchfest Posted November 11, 2002 Posted November 11, 2002 My gear budget has been side tracked with child development cost. I'm lucky if I can afford tied together chunks of 3 strand poly rope and used glad bags for rain gear. Quote
sketchfest Posted November 11, 2002 Posted November 11, 2002 Aahhhh, four, what a golden age. So, anyway, back from thread drift. Any idea about the G-10 vs. G-12 adjustment bars? Quote
RobBob Posted November 11, 2002 Posted November 11, 2002 Not me---this sorry climber gives a vote of satisfaction to step-in sabertooths. Another good deal found on eBay last year. Quote
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