KaskadskyjKozak Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 Ahhh yes. I had hip problems due to my body not producing cartiledge like it used to. I started taking glucosamine which solved my hip problem but raised my cholesterol. So then I had to start taking Lipitor. I'm sure Viagra will be next. Have you tried red yeast rice? Same active ingredient that is in Lipitor. I sincerely doubt this. It may have the same cholesterol lowering effect, but cannot contain a synthetic compound such as Atorvastatin. "Red yeast rice when produced using the 'Went' strain of Monascus purpureus contains significant quantites of the HMG-CoA reductase inhibitor lovastatin which is also known as mevinolin, a naturally-occurring statin", according to Wikipedia. aromatic hydrocarbons, hydroxyl groups, carboxylic acids... it's all coming back now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bug Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 OK chew this one up. http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=14999 What is the composition of HypoCol™ and Cholestin™? Scientists at Pharmanex and the UCLA Center for Human Nutrition analyzed the properties of Cholestin™. The composition by weight is starch (73%), protein (5.8%) moisture (3-6%), unsaturated fatty acids (1.5%), monacolins (0.4%), ash (3%), and trace amounts of calcium, iron, magnesium, and copper. There are no additives, preservatives, heavy metals, or toxic substances, such as citrinic acid. In 1977, Professor Endo in Japan discovered a natural cholesterol-lowering substance that is produced by a strain of Monascus yeast. This substance inhibits HMG-CoA reductase, an enzyme that is important for the production of cholesterol in the body. Professor Endo named this substance moncacolin K. Since then, scientists have discovered a total of 8 monacolin-like substances that have cholesterol-lowering properties. Monacolin K is lovastatin, the active ingredient in the popular statin drug, Mevacor™, which is used for lowering cholesterol. Lovastatin also is believed to be the main cholesterol-lowering ingredient in HypoCol™ and Cholestin™. The lovastatin in Mevacor™ is highly purified and concentrated, while the ingredients in Cholestin™ and HypoCol™ are not. Thus, they contain much lower concentrations of lovastatin than Mevacor™. For example, each 600-mg capsule of Cholestin ™ contains less than 2.4 mg of lovastatin whereas tablets of Mevacor™ contain 10 mg or more of this ingredient. Because none of the components are purified and concentrated, HypoCol™ and Cholestin™ contain a mixture of the 8 yeast-produced monacolins, unsaturated fatty acids, and certain anti-oxidants. Some scientists believe that these other monacolins, unsaturated fatty acids, and anti-oxidants may work together favorably with lovastatin to enhance its cholesterol-lowering effects, as well as its ability in lowering triglycerides and increasing HDL cholesterol. (HDL is considered the "good" form of cholesterol since high levels of HDL cholesterol protect against heart attacks.) Further studies in animals and humans will be necessary to test these beliefs. How effective are HypoCol™, Cholestin™, and Xuezhikang in lowering lipids? Chinese scientists conducted most of the animal and human studies on this issue, using either Zhitai or Xuezhikang. The results of some 17 studies involving approximately 900 Chinese subjects with modestly elevated cholesterol levels have been published. In 8 of these studies, there was a control group that received a placebo (a pill with no active ingredients) for comparison purposes. In 9 of the studies, there was no placebo control group. These studies consistently showed that Zhitai and Xuezhikang lower total cholesterol (by an average of 10-30%), lower LDL cholesterol (by an average of 10-20%), lower triglycerides (by an average of 15-25%), and increase HDL (by an average of 7-15%). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pup_on_the_mountain Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 Okay. Move along people! Nothing to see here ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 I would love to hit all of them this year. CBS, Oly, KKK, and Billygoat Billy is my ture love. all the rest all just stand ins Can we alternate years with him? I'd like a turn. i love to share. i am sure we can work something out that pleases every one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bug Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 He sleeps in girls' bathrooms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 He sleeps in girls' bathrooms. do you blame him? mens bathrooms smell AWFUL!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billygoat Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 I would love to hit all of them this year. CBS, Oly, KKK, and Billygoat Billy is my ture love. all the rest all just stand ins Can we alternate years with him? I'd like a turn. i love to share. i am sure we can work something out that pleases every one I love getting action when I'm not around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bug Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Its better than getting action when no one else is around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Its better than getting action when no one else is around. i think bug is trying to say he loves himself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenderfour Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 OK chew this one up. http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=14999 What is the composition of HypoCol™ and Cholestin™? Scientists at Pharmanex and the UCLA Center for Human Nutrition analyzed the properties of Cholestin™. The composition by weight is starch (73%), protein (5.8%) moisture (3-6%), unsaturated fatty acids (1.5%), monacolins (0.4%), ash (3%), and trace amounts of calcium, iron, magnesium, and copper. There are no additives, preservatives, heavy metals, or toxic substances, such as citrinic acid. In 1977, Professor Endo in Japan discovered a natural cholesterol-lowering substance that is produced by a strain of Monascus yeast. This substance inhibits HMG-CoA reductase, an enzyme that is important for the production of cholesterol in the body. Professor Endo named this substance moncacolin K. Since then, scientists have discovered a total of 8 monacolin-like substances that have cholesterol-lowering properties. Monacolin K is lovastatin, the active ingredient in the popular statin drug, Mevacor™, which is used for lowering cholesterol. Lovastatin also is believed to be the main cholesterol-lowering ingredient in HypoCol™ and Cholestin™. The lovastatin in Mevacor™ is highly purified and concentrated, while the ingredients in Cholestin™ and HypoCol™ are not. Thus, they contain much lower concentrations of lovastatin than Mevacor™. For example, each 600-mg capsule of Cholestin ™ contains less than 2.4 mg of lovastatin whereas tablets of Mevacor™ contain 10 mg or more of this ingredient. Because none of the components are purified and concentrated, HypoCol™ and Cholestin™ contain a mixture of the 8 yeast-produced monacolins, unsaturated fatty acids, and certain anti-oxidants. Some scientists believe that these other monacolins, unsaturated fatty acids, and anti-oxidants may work together favorably with lovastatin to enhance its cholesterol-lowering effects, as well as its ability in lowering triglycerides and increasing HDL cholesterol. (HDL is considered the "good" form of cholesterol since high levels of HDL cholesterol protect against heart attacks.) Further studies in animals and humans will be necessary to test these beliefs. How effective are HypoCol™, Cholestin™, and Xuezhikang in lowering lipids? Chinese scientists conducted most of the animal and human studies on this issue, using either Zhitai or Xuezhikang. The results of some 17 studies involving approximately 900 Chinese subjects with modestly elevated cholesterol levels have been published. In 8 of these studies, there was a control group that received a placebo (a pill with no active ingredients) for comparison purposes. In 9 of the studies, there was no placebo control group. These studies consistently showed that Zhitai and Xuezhikang lower total cholesterol (by an average of 10-30%), lower LDL cholesterol (by an average of 10-20%), lower triglycerides (by an average of 15-25%), and increase HDL (by an average of 7-15%). ROPE UP, Fer Feck's sake, ROPE UP!!!! Take this to the new ORGANIC CHEMISTRY FORUM!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancegranite Posted August 10, 2007 Share Posted August 10, 2007 Worst thread drift ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billygoat Posted August 10, 2007 Share Posted August 10, 2007 No Shit! it was just gettin' sexy 8D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWolfe Posted August 10, 2007 Share Posted August 10, 2007 It may not be sexy TO YOU, but Brian popped a woody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minx Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 can i attend even if i don't actually climb anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 So, do we have dates for either of these here shindigs? I can bring my winning personality, my wit, and my fear of people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted August 14, 2007 Author Share Posted August 14, 2007 Adult version will be in early October. I'm trying to find a time to do the Kids ropeup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 can i attend even if i don't actually climb anymore? good question. I second that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted August 15, 2007 Author Share Posted August 15, 2007 Of course. In fact, there is a special invitation just for you. The ropeup is for cc.com peeps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 Of course. In fact, there is a special invitation just for you. The ropeup is for cc.com peeps. awsome cus i suck at climbing but i am a superstar beer drinker!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selkirk Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 Beer drinking is reserved for those working on their alpine insulation, for the big Sunday ascent of Castle Rock As being hungover easily adds a grade, it would be wise to prepare for the eventual epic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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