tvashtarkatena Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 I'd say this is worse than Oregon giving illegal immigrants driver's licenses without any proof of age, citizenship, or a ss#. In Washington, they don't even require proof of driving ability! "Turn your blinker off. Turn your fucking blinker off." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucK Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Those bastards that refuse to use their blinkers bug me more. My favorite bumper sticker of late: "Jesus would probably use his turn signal!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clavote Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 I acutally can't wait to hear about all of the credit cards from B of A given out to illegals with "George Washington" or Arnold Schwartzenegger" on them! Anyone know what their "high introductory fee" and high interest rates are going to be? I'd say this is worse than Oregon giving illegal immigrants driver's licenses without any proof of age, citizenship, or a ss#. Or maybe it is a consiracy by the Feds to find out how many illegal immigrants are actually in the US? Free money? They will come out of the woodwork for sure! That money is not free and you are right about the high introductory fees. Good thing I invensted in BoA stock. It's been doing real nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryland_moore Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Heck yeah, it's free! Someone pays $500 intro to get the credit card under the name George Washington and gives his address at some house where there are 15 illegals staying in a 2 bedroom house. Then the card holder bolts after maxing out the card at say $2000, never to be heard from again. What is B of A going to do? Mark it on his credit report? Oh wait, B of A didn't have a ss# to access the individual's credit report, or a real name, or even a birth certificate. Good luck on getting their money back. I guess they will just have to pawn off their losses onto all of their other law-abiding patrons....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pink Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 law abiding citizens pawning losses onto other law abiding citizens, sounds like bankruptcy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheaf_stout Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 Illegal aliens have rights. The right to go home and the right to do so in handcuffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 Got out of bed, wasn't feeling too good With my wallet and my passport, a new pair of shoes The sun is shining so I head for the park, With a bottle of Tequila, and a new pack of cigarettes I got a cousin and she got a friend, Who thought that her aunt knew a man who could help At his apartment I knocked on the door, He wouldn't come out until he got paid. Now don't tell anybody what I wanna do If they find out you know that they'll never let me through, cos It's no fun being an illegal alien No, it's no fun being an illegal alien Down at the office had to fill out the forms A pink one, a red one, the colours you choose, Up to the counter to see what they think They said "it doesn't count man, it ain't written in ink". I don't trust anybody, least not around here, cos It's no fun being an illegal alien, I tell ya It's no fun being an illegal alien, no no no no no It's no fun being an illegal alien, I mean it when I tell ya that It's no fun being an illegal alien, An illegal alien, O.K. Consideration for your fellow man Would not hurt anybody, it sure fits in with my plan Over the border, there lies the promised land Where everything comes easy, you just hold out your hand Keep your suspicions, I've seen that look before But I ain't done nothing wrong now, is that such a suprise But I've got a sister who'd be willing to oblige She will do anything now to help me get to the outside So don't tell anybody what I wanna do If they find out you know that they'll never let me through, because It's no fun being an illegal alien, I tell ya It's no fun being an illegal alien, and it's getting me down It's no fun being an illegal alien, no no no no no It's no fun being an illegal alien, yeah yeah yeah It's no fun (not much fun) being an illegal alien, I tell ya that It's no fun being an illegal alien, I tell ya It's no fun being an illegal alien, no no no It's no fun (not bloody much fun) being an illegal alien, It's no fun being an illegal alien, and that's what I am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stonehead Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 Ya, I think the house analogy is absurd. Maybe you should get some Pat Buchanan talking points regarding demographics and say something like by 2020 the demographic structure will look like an hourglass shape with older, more affluent white folks at the upper part and younger, less affluent Hispanics at the lower part. The white (European-American) population is aging while the Hispanic population who in their fertile years may quite possibly will change the face of America, most notably on the West Coast and Southwest. Regarding other countries problems, here's a blurb concerning Muslim immigration. For instance, "...Muslim immigrants had a reputation for manipulating the values of Western countries, taking advantage of their hospitality and tolerance." Isn't this what's it's all about? Reaction against the perceived threat of changing values and the core issues such as the dominant language and other cultural indicators? Maybe our politicians should put pressure on the Mexican government to reform their society and economics so that the 'safety valve' of immigration to the US isn't required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crux Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 my mom has worked for the federal government for thirty some years and i understand that goverment employees are a lazy bunch Now seeking candidates for the next lazy MILF quarterly. Tell us more, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joblo7 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 we militarized our border with mexico only after we passed a 'free trade agreement' with them and other southern countries.those agreements were garantees for our big business at the expense of their small farms etc.. the predicted outcome would be an influx of immigrants ,now out of work as a result of agricultural subsidies to US farmers. hence the cheap labour. when you conquer a country ,(with arms or 'laws') you inherit its citizens. those are second class beige americans we are talking about! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheaf_stout Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 These are not US citizens and just because they sneak across any border it does not entitle them to any rights which other citizens posses. Being born in any given country does not grant rights as a US Citizen. If they don't like it here they can go back where they came from. Illegal Immigration is a gaping hole for national security. I say come here legally or go back where you came from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joblo7 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 go in your neighbor's house and cut the power in winter ,then arm yourself and build a wall/fence. then blame and demean him. your pride will know no bounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehead Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 E pluribus unum. Aren't all opinions valid, not necessarily to be acted upon, but to be taken into consideration as expressing a legitimate need emanating from an individual? Or are you of the opinion that some voices have to be silenced because you deem them to be invalid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Larceny Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 The Honorable Tom Harkin 731 Hart Senate Office Building Phone (202) 224 3254 Washington DC , 20510 Dear Senator Harkin, As a native Iowan and excellent customer of the Internal Revenue Service, I am writing to ask for your assistance. I have contacted The Department of Homeland Security in an effort to determine the Process for becoming an illegal alien and they referred me to you. My primary reason for wishing to change my status from U.S. Citizen to illegal alien stems from the bill which was recently Passed by the Senate and for which you voted. If my understanding of this bill's Provisions is accurate, as an illegal alien who has been in the United States for five years, all I need to do to become a citizen Is to pay a $2,000 fine and income taxes for three of the last five Years. I know a good deal when I see one and I am anxious to get The process started before everyone figures it out. Simply put, those of us who have been here legally have had to pay Taxes every year so I'm excited about the prospect of avoiding two Years of taxes in return for paying a $2,000 fine. Is there any way that I Can apply to be illegal retroactively? This would yield an excellent Result for me and my family because we paid heavy taxes in 2004 And 2005. Additionally, as an illegal alien I could begin using the local Emergency room as my primary health care provider. Once I have stopped Paying premiums for medical insurance, my accountant figures I could Save almost $10,000 a year. Another benefit in gaining illegal status would be that my Daughter would receive preferential treatment relative to her law School applications, as well as "in-state" tuition rates for many Colleges throughout the United States for my son. Lastly, I understand that illegal status would relieve me of the Burden of renewing my driver's license and making those burdensome Car insurance premiums. This is very important to me given that I Still have college age children driving my car. If you would provide me with an outline of the process to become Illegal (retroactively if possible) and copies of the necessary Forms, I would be most appreciative. Thank you for your assistance. Your Loyal Constituent, Donald Ruppert Burlington , IA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehead Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 http://www.todaysmilitary.com/app/tm/faq/entrance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 These are not US citizens and just because they sneak across any border it does not entitle them to any rights which other citizens posses. Being born in any given country does not grant rights as a US Citizen. If they don't like it here they can go back where they came from. Illegal Immigration is a gaping hole for national security. I say come here legally or go back where you came from. A technical correction: Rights protected by the US Constitution apply to all 'persons' on our soil (regardless of citizenship status). This principle has never been successfully challenged. Having said that, citizens enjoy many more rights than those enumerated in the Constitution (such as the right to vote). These addition rights are not afforded to illegal aliens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehead Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 (edited) Someone might find this link useful . It's based on data from 2004 but gives an informative visual. Click on the pic. Oh, I guess it's been updated for 2007 at the enclosed link. Check out the difference in military vs. non-military spending in 2004 and 2007. Edited February 18, 2007 by Stonehead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephH Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 These are not US citizens and just because they sneak across any border it does not entitle them to any rights which other citizens posses. Being born in any given country does not grant rights as a US Citizen. If they don't like it here they can go back where they came from. Illegal Immigration is a gaping hole for national security. I say come here legally or go back where you came from. Again, the problem isn't the workers - it's the employers. If one carried all the rightwing's irrational, patriotic bullshit to it's logical conclusion you would have to say the employers are traitors. The employers are the ones imposing on our education and health system by shifting labor costs off of themselves where they rightfully belong and onto us - the U.S. taxpayers. Hysterical rhetoric from the right is designed to keep the focus on the illegal aliens and off the employers and corporations who are the ones rapaciously screwing us at every turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Larceny Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 http://youtube.com/watch?v=n7WJeqxuOfQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 the Hispanic population who in their fertile years may quite possibly will change the face of America, most notably on the West Coast and Southwest. Anyone else notice that their fertile years seem to be between 12 and 14? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Larceny Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 It's a real sign of Global Warming when all the Mexicans move north. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 If it wasn't for Mexican food what would Americans eat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crux Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Snafflecows. Canadian snafflecows, and lot's of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joblo7 Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 canadian bacon . simmered in maple syrup....aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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