kevbone Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Pros and cons for either? Let the arguing begin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 big hint: Use search engine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted August 30, 2006 Author Share Posted August 30, 2006 Search engine for what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrgo Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Holy shit, I figured you would have had enough after the Infinite Bliss thread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 (edited) This is the Climber's Forum, so give him the benefit of the doubt that he wants a serious discussion and not spray. On the other hand he didn't state his opinion so that could be a tip off. Edited August 30, 2006 by catbirdseat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted August 30, 2006 Author Share Posted August 30, 2006 I would say after 10 years of climbing. The most fun I have had is on a rapbolted route. They both have there place in time, but rap bolted climbs are generally safer. I know call me a wimp, but the reality its, if you fall on a run out climb and get hurt, and don’t climb for 6 months, that’s exactly it, YOU DON’T CLIMB FOR 6 MONTHS. All because you wanted to be bold. I don’t agree with this. So I have chosen to rap bolt all the climbs I put up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Sometimes ground up can be just as safe. It all depends. Slab climbs, if done ground up, often have the bolts in exactly the wrong places- right after a crux, rather than before one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted August 30, 2006 Author Share Posted August 30, 2006 Folks who want to climb ground up scary climbs. Go to jtree! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpinfox Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Hey moderators, has anyone ever been banned for being inane? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 please, someone, make the pain go away....please?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted August 30, 2006 Author Share Posted August 30, 2006 You dont have to join in on the discusion! This is a valid discusion on a valid board. If you dont like it, dont climb it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra_Commander Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 clearly rumr is an invalid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted August 30, 2006 Author Share Posted August 30, 2006 Gotta love GI JOE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra_Commander Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 actually I hate them pretty strongly. foiled my attempt to acquire new jersey with cloned dinosaurs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted August 30, 2006 Author Share Posted August 30, 2006 Do you think GI JOE bolts top down or ground up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHarry Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Old Jersey is way better anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra_Commander Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 one could argue new jersey already has a healthy population of dinosaurs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Cracks rule. No bolts just pro. (Notice: not crack pots Cobra) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted August 30, 2006 Author Share Posted August 30, 2006 I agree Bill, but in the need for putting bolts in, would you perfer they were done on lead or rap? And I know you have place bolts before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenSeagal Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 if you fall on a run out climb and get hurt, and don’t climb for 6 months, that’s exactly it, YOU DON’T CLIMB FOR 6 MONTHS. All because you wanted to be bold. I don’t agree with this. So I have chosen to rap bolt all the climbs I put up. Jesus titty fucking christ, where is Mark Twight when we need him? I don't wear pads when I spar, cause you won't have them on when the bad guys come after you. If you want a guarantee of safety, you're in the wrong sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingpig Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Lead climbing should always be somewhat spicy. If it is to run out for you then there is always top roping (WHICH I RESPECT). Kevin i diagree with you. Climbing is not for everyone, otherwise they would build a staircase to the top of K2 so everybody could stand on top of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted August 30, 2006 Author Share Posted August 30, 2006 Stevo, your using the same old argument and I call your bullshit, You are a tool. I dont want a guarantee for saftey, but I want my chances to be great, not just good, but great that I will climb the next day and on and on and on. Oh yeah on other thing, this may be a sport to you. But its a way of like for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Is it a way of like cause you can't commit to love? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 so should everything be sanitized? should the bachar-yerian get retro'ed? Should El Cap be gridbolted? there's a place for every style out there...not everything needs to be safe, you don't like it/not up to the challenge then move on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainmatt Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Maybe you should start a thread on chipping versus not chipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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