Rap bolting vs Ground up.

[kevbone]

Pros and cons for either?

 

Let the arguing begin!

[RuMR]

big hint: Use search engine...

[kevbone]

Search engine for what?

[Farrgo]

Holy shit, I figured you would have had enough after the Infinite Bliss thread!

[catbirdseat]

This is the Climber's Forum, so give him the benefit of the doubt that he wants a serious discussion and not spray. On the other hand he didn't state his opinion so that could be a tip off.

Edited August 30, 2006 by catbirdseat

[kevbone]

I would say after 10 years of climbing. The most fun I have had is on a rapbolted route. They both have there place in time, but rap bolted climbs are generally safer. I know call me a wimp, but the reality its, if you fall on a run out climb and get hurt, and don’t climb for 6 months, that’s exactly it, YOU DON’T CLIMB FOR 6 MONTHS. All because you wanted to be bold. I don’t agree with this. So I have chosen to rap bolt all the climbs I put up.

[catbirdseat]

Sometimes ground up can be just as safe. It all depends.

 

Slab climbs, if done ground up, often have the bolts in exactly the wrong places- right after a crux, rather than before one.

[kevbone]

Folks who want to climb ground up scary climbs. Go to jtree!

[Alpinfox]

 

Hey moderators, has anyone ever been banned for being inane?

[RuMR]

please, someone, make the pain go away....please??

[kevbone]

You dont have to join in on the discusion! This is a valid discusion on a valid board. If you dont like it, dont climb it.

[Cobra_Commander]

clearly rumr is an invalid.

[kevbone]

Gotta love GI JOE!

[Cobra_Commander]

actually I hate them pretty strongly. foiled my attempt to acquire new jersey with cloned dinosaurs.

[kevbone]

Do you think GI JOE bolts top down or ground up?

[DirtyHarry]

Old Jersey is way better anyway.

[Cobra_Commander]

one could argue new jersey already has a healthy population of dinosaurs.

[billcoe]

Cracks rule. No bolts just pro. (Notice: not crack pots Cobra)

[kevbone]

I agree Bill, but in the need for putting bolts in, would you perfer they were done on lead or rap? And I know you have place bolts before.

[StevenSeagal]

if you fall on a run out climb and get hurt, and don’t climb for 6 months, that’s exactly it, YOU DON’T CLIMB FOR 6 MONTHS. All because you wanted to be bold. I don’t agree with this. So I have chosen to rap bolt all the climbs I put up.

 

Jesus titty fucking christ, where is Mark Twight when we need him?

 

I don't wear pads when I spar, cause you won't have them on when the bad guys come after you.

 

If you want a guarantee of safety, you're in the wrong sport.

[flyingpig]

Lead climbing should always be somewhat spicy. If it is to run out for you then there is always top roping (WHICH I RESPECT). Kevin i diagree with you. Climbing is not for everyone, otherwise they would build a staircase to the top of K2 so everybody could stand on top of the world.

[kevbone]

Stevo, your using the same old argument and I call your bullshit, You are a tool.

 

I dont want a guarantee for saftey, but I want my chances to be great, not just good, but great that I will climb the next day and on and on and on.

 

Oh yeah on other thing, this may be a sport to you. But its a way of like for me.

[G-spotter]

Is it a way of like cause you can't commit to love?

[RuMR]

so should everything be sanitized?

should the bachar-yerian get retro'ed?

Should El Cap be gridbolted?

 

there's a place for every style out there...not everything needs to be safe, you don't like it/not up to the challenge then move on...

[mountainmatt]

Maybe you should start a thread on chipping versus not chipping.