cj001f Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Carl, you'd be lucky to get Mrs Peacock in the kitchen that apt has some bad mojo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_forester Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 moved out on Saturday. got tired of tripping over the mysterious bulge in the carpet. oh that and my jackass neighbors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingpig Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 kevbone, Â i think harold (coitis interuptis) here is walking premature ejaculation. that's why he spouts off so quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 oh that and my jackass neighbors. quite a few there. a few cute ones as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmj11 Posted August 24, 2006 Author Share Posted August 24, 2006 I am deeply grateful for the few that took me seriously enough to give me some helpful answers. Â I am the owner of the store with my own day job. Of curse I will hire experienced people. I have personal experience in many outdoor sport areas but limited in rock climbing so I hope to hire a manger who is strong in that area. But, step by step, I can't hire staff until I have a store. I can't have a store until I develope a business plan. I can't develop a busines plan until I have a relationship with manufacturers so that is the stage I'm not now . . . developing a business plan and establishing which products that I want to carry. Â Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_forester Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 hey, you're welcome. Â seriously, good luck. I think you'd be better off starting off specializing in those areas that you've got personal experience in, and set plans for carrying a bunch of climbing gear aside until you've got someone who could really properly advise you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 (edited) You might try visiting Marmot Mountain Work in Bellevue, ProMountain Sports in the U-district, Second Ascent in Ballard, and Feathered Friends downtown, and do some looking and questioning. Â Also, just because a manf. makes good equipment, doesn't mean they are good to their retailers. Many are notoriously late with their shipments to retailers, or notorious for running out of stock on hot items. Edited August 24, 2006 by ericb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmj11 Posted August 24, 2006 Author Share Posted August 24, 2006 (edited) hey, you're welcome. seriously, good luck. I think you'd be better off starting off specializing in those areas that you've got personal experience in, and set plans for carrying a bunch of climbing gear aside until you've got someone who could really properly advise you...  I have several good friends that are serious climbers to draw from as well including my next door neighbor and good friend who's from S. Africa who was a professional mountaineer guide and rock climbing instructor for years. I came to this forum to get a broader opinion from other climbers.  I live near the bottom of Mount Erie in Anacortes. This whole idea started when I was taking my teenage kids climbing on Erie (we go quite often) and I just wanted another locking biner. I was new to the island. I was surprised that you could not find one biner on the whole island. You would probably have to drive to Bellingham to buy one, let alone quick draws, caulk, webbing or other supplies.  I didn't mean to sound like I've never climbed before. I started 25 years ago, but I am nowhere as experienced as many on this forum.  Certainly there is not the need here that would support a climbing only store. My speciality is more light weight backpacking (I spent three weeks in NW Frontier of Pakistan in March backpacking and working in earthquake relief). I do a lot of sea kayaking as well, but we have a decent sea kayaking outfitters on the island. Edited August 24, 2006 by jmj11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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archenemy Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 You might try visiting Marmot Mountain Work in Bellevue, ProMountain Sports in the U-district, Second Ascent in Ballard, and Feathered Friends downtown, and do some looking and questioning. Â That's a very good idea and I have already started to visit many other stores to see what they've done right. To suceed I must create a niche that no one else is serving in our area (San Juans). You might want to talk to the guy who started Barrel Mountaineering in Bozeman (I think he also owns Second Ascent--can someone who knows for sure verify that?). He lives here in the Seattle area, and he was successful at starting Barrel back when Bozeman was really small. He also survived after a huge gear shop when up in Bozeman, mostly b/c he fulfilled a niche. Might be helpful... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durangotan Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Brent Bishop owns Barrel Mountaineering in Bozeman. He doesn't hold any claim in Second Ascent to my knowlege. You can probably find him in Index on a sunny sat morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Brent Bishop owns Barrel Mountaineering in Bozeman. He doesn't hold any claim in Second Ascent to my knowlege. You can probably find him in Index on a sunny sat morning. Thanks  Doesn't he own a shoppe here too? Or did I make that up? I get my facts all mixed up sometimes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durangotan Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 no shop, but he worked as President of Moonstone based out of seattle until Moonstone disappeared under the Columbia umbrella... maybe that is what you were thinking of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 I wish I had a good enough memory to say "maybe so, yeah" to that; but I'd be lying. Thanks though for setting me straight, I don't like giving out wrong information. I still like Barrel Mtning though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 hey, you're welcome. I just wanted another locking biner. I was new to the island. I was surprised that you could not find one biner on the whole island. You would probably have to drive to Bellingham to buy one, let alone quick draws, caulk, webbing or other supplies.  How much caulk do you normally use while climbing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 hey, you're welcome. I just wanted another locking biner. I was new to the island. I was surprised that you could not find one biner on the whole island. You would probably have to drive to Bellingham to buy one, let alone quick draws, caulk, webbing or other supplies.  How much caulk do you normally use while climbing?  I imagine your climbing partners use quite a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHarry Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 (I spent three weeks in NW Frontier of Pakistan in March backpacking and working in earthquake relief). Â That's pretty cool. Â Who do you think your market would be? - What type of climbers would you expect to be shopping at your store? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Couloir Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 I'll take miss scarlett and the maid in my bedroom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dechristo Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 Post deleted by jmj11 Â Great Pacific Iron Works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billygoat Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 This isn't spray fellas, now piss off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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