lI1|1! Posted July 27, 2006 Posted July 27, 2006 so this is probably a little premature because they haven't done the second test yet, but i'd just like to say whoever came in 2nd 's! Quote
Punter Posted July 27, 2006 Posted July 27, 2006 Along JayB's line of thinking....wouldn't testosterone be used to bulk up? And even then an athelet would use it over a long period of time and not simply inject it to get a sudden boost for the next day. I could see someone transfusing rbcs to get a boost because I would assume the positive effects would be almost instantaneous. Why in the world would he be doing steroids (testosterone) in the middle of the Tour? It will be interesting to see if his previous tests show an increased level or if this is the only time it showed up (fishy). I am sure they took samples from him earlier. I have heard that they sometimes test the Tour riders 3 days in row. Quote
Winter Posted July 27, 2006 Posted July 27, 2006 He wouldn't have have been doping just for one stage. It would be an indicator of a longer program. The UCI uses a ratio of 4:1 - just lowered it from 6:1. Apparently naturaly occurring ratios higher than 6:1 have been documented. Check this out also:  Evaluation of testosterone/epitestosterone ratio influential factors as determined in doping analysis.  van de Kerkhof DH, de Boer D, Thijssen JH, Maes RA.  Utrecht Institute of Pharmaceutical Sciences, Department of Human Toxicology, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands. D.H.vandeKerkhof@pharm.uu.nl  The ratio of the concentration of testosterone glucuronide to the concentration of epitestosterone glucuronide (T/E ratio) as determined in urine is the most frequently used method to prove testosterone abuse by athletes. A T/E ratio higher than 6 has been considered as proof of abuse in the past; however, cases of naturally occurring higher T/E ratios have been described. Since the introduction of the T/E ratio in doping analysis, the parameters that may or may not influence the T/E ratio, possibly leading to false-positive results, have been debated. To achieve more insight on the influencing circumstances, an overview is given to obtain an objective view on the merits of the urinary T/E ratio. Relevant analytical aspects of the T/E ratio, potential parameters of endogenous and exogenous origins, as well as some alternative methods to determine testosterone abuse, such as the urinary testosterone/luteinizing hormone ratio, gas chromatography-combustion-isotope-ratio mass spectrometry, hair analysis, and high-performance liquid chromatography-mass spectrometry, are discussed. Quote
RogerJ Posted July 27, 2006 Posted July 27, 2006 Drinking a bunch of beer will alter your T/E ratio too. More so in women, however. Â Maybe Floyd was drinking a PBR or two. ? Â -r Quote
underworld Posted July 27, 2006 Posted July 27, 2006 OMG!!! he's a male!!! Landis, who won the 2006 race last weekend, tested positive for the male sex hormone testosterone after his sensational win in the 17th stage of this year's race which he won after powering away on a 130km solo breakaway. Â fqing reporters are idiots!!! Quote
lI1|1! Posted July 27, 2006 Posted July 27, 2006 testosterone   testosterone   testosterone  Quote
Alpinfox Posted July 27, 2006 Posted July 27, 2006 I'm pretty sure that most of the techno-wank pillowbitters in full racing regalia that I pass on the Burke-Gilman everyday wouldn't test positive for testosterone. Â Quote
jon Posted July 27, 2006 Posted July 27, 2006 I'm pretty sure that most of the techno-wank pillowbitters in full racing regalia that I pass on the Burke-Gilman everyday wouldn't test positive for testosterone.  Isn't it hard to corner with those training wheels you got there Alpinefox? Quote
Alpinfox Posted July 27, 2006 Posted July 27, 2006 well yes. But it makes for easy hands-free access to my champagne glass. A nice feature when trying to work on my commuting buzz. Quote
olyclimber Posted July 27, 2006 Posted July 27, 2006 what about those that ride around on their bike naked? Aren't they the UBERGAYEST???? They could just forgo the bike seat. Talk about a HILARIOUS RESULT!!! Quote
cj001f Posted July 27, 2006 Posted July 27, 2006 what about those that ride around on their bike naked? Aren't they the UBERGAYEST???? They could just forgo the bike seat. Talk about a HILARIOUS RESULT!!! Â I think the vibrator powered by the pedals is up your alley Quote
olyclimber Posted July 27, 2006 Posted July 27, 2006 I heard there were a bunch of steriod freaks in the Fremont Parade! Quote
Alpinfox Posted July 27, 2006 Posted July 27, 2006 If you'd like to do some testosterone urinalysis, I can probably provide you with a taste test. Quote
olyclimber Posted July 27, 2006 Posted July 27, 2006 you'll taste my testoserone? Do I have to wear spandex when you administer the test???? Quote
olyclimber Posted July 27, 2006 Posted July 27, 2006 imagine if dudes wore neon spandex like that when they were climbing....now that would be gay!!! Quote
Mr_Phil Posted July 27, 2006 Posted July 27, 2006 gay   gay   gay   Not that there's anything wrong with that. Quote
olyclimber Posted July 27, 2006 Posted July 27, 2006 there is no doubt to the orientation there. GAYDAR meter is pegged. Quote
dmuja Posted July 28, 2006 Posted July 28, 2006 imagine if dudes wore neon spandex like that when they were climbing....now that would be gay!!!   yeah....imagine   Quote
JayB Posted August 7, 2006 Posted August 7, 2006 Just heard that Landis' B-Sample also failed today.... Quote
bwrts Posted August 8, 2006 Posted August 8, 2006 Just heard that Landis' B-Sample also failed today.... wow, if this is true...... what a fuking looser....if he only would have let up a bit on the fatefull day and not won by so much maybe they would have not become so suspect...but then I do believe all stage winners are guarenteed a day in the lab. any rate, it really is too bad.... Quote
Couloir Posted September 20, 2007 Posted September 20, 2007 That was one of the most impressive comebacks ever. Â Not so good news for Landis. Quote
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