OR DMV Driver Improvement Program Question

[John Frieh]

Perhaps you legal eagles can help me out with this...

 

Got another moving violation (what's new)... I know I qualify for another suspension pending my conviction.

 

If I enter a plea of no contest does this count as a conviction? I.e. Can the DMV count a no contest plea? I understand I will have to pay the full fine amount + court fees but according to my math it is cheaper than paying for a new license, driving for work petition, etc etc.

 

From OARs:

2) "Conviction" means a determination of guilt by a court of law upon a plea, verdict, finding, or unvacated bail forfeiture. Each separate offense arising from a single traffic stop or preventable accident, for which the person receives a conviction, constitutes a separate conviction for purposes of these rules.

 

 

Background:

Driver Improvement Program

 

The goal of the Driver Improvement Program is to maintain the safety of Oregon roads by motivating people to drive safely and keeping unsafe drivers off the roads. If you have been convicted of multiple traffic offenses and/or preventable accidents over a stated period of time, you may be subject to the Driver Improvement Program.

 

Depending on the number of offenses and/or accidents, and the time period in which they occurred, DMV may restrict or even suspend your driving privileges. The types of offenses that fall under this program include convictions for speeding, running a red light, and failure to signal a lane change.

 

If You Over Age 18 and you have:

 

Three convictions, or

Three accidents, or

A combination that totals three

 

in an 18-month period, DMV will restrict your driving privileges for thirty days. The restriction will not allow you to drive between 12 midnight and 5 a.m., unless driving to and from work or when required for your job.

 

If you have:

 

Four convictions, or

Four accidents, or

A combination that totals four

 

in a 24-month period, DMV will suspend your driving privileges for thirty days. Each subsequent driver improvement violation or preventable accident, five within a 24-month period, will suspend your driving privileges or right to apply for driving privileges for 30 days, regardless of a previous or current Driver Improvement Program suspension(s)

 

DMV page

 

OARs link

[Squid]

Time to move across the river to Vancouver; get a clean slate.

[John Frieh]

Time to move across the river to Vancouver; get a clean slate.

 

Commuting between the couv and PDX on a daily basis is potential candidate for the 2nd level of hell IMO.

 

And I have 5 convictions in the past 3 years in WA

[sweatinoutliquor]

Dude, you need to get a shittier car. I'll give you mine if you want. Over 65 and it gets to rattlin in ways that would make want/need to go slower. I don't even drive it anymore. No tickets in the past few years though, knock on wood. Oh wait, I take that back, I did get a ticket in Salem cause it was too loud. When she told me why I had been pulled over I wasn't sure if I should laugh or not!

[Squid]

 

 

Dude, you suck!

 

 

Ditch the car, let someone else drive for awhile. Pay for 100% of the gas & you still save money (from insurance costs & fines).

 

Admit the objective reality- you can't afford to drive.

[DanielHarro]

John- So does this me that we cant carpool to Salem for the Steve House show? I guess I can drive. Maybe you should go to law school and then you could figure out a way to dig your self out of this hole.

[rbw1966]

I may be wrong, but I do not believe you get the option of entering a "no contest" plea on infractions. You can appear in court and try and beat it or get it pled down to a lower offense. This used to be a no-brainer as just showing up guaranteed a lesser fine but rumor has it that the Multnomah County traffic court judges are getting tired of people doing this and are pushing for stiffer penalties.

 

I'm glad I am not paying your insurance rates.

 

Let someone else drive.

[John Frieh]

On the back of the ticket one of the options is a "no contest" plea.

 

Last time I checked responding to a charge within the allotted time and planning on paying what ever fees I may amass is sacking up. I'm not trying to get out of the ticket... I admit I was speeding. I'm only trying to avoid a suspension.

[catbirdseat]

Wirlwind has experience with these sorts of situations. You should ask him how to handle it.

[Winter]

I don't know this for sure, but I'm pretty certain that no contest will not get you out of a suspension.

[ALLCAPS]

NO CONTEST MEANS YOU DON'T THINK THEY ARE WORTHY OF TRYING YOU. LOL, JUST KIDDING DUDE. SLOW DOWN!

 

NOLO CONTENDERE

[ashw_justin]

drive slower, jackass!

 

(Hahaha, good luck driving up here to kick my ass now. )

[billcoe]

Here was an interesting attempt at a solution to this very problem:

 

"Police: Woman Fakes Death To Avoid Paying Traffic Tickets

Des Moines Woman Faces Felony Charges

 

 

 

DES MOINES, Iowa -- An investigation concluded that a Des Moines woman faked her own death to avoid paying traffic tickets.

 

Polk County investigators said Kimberly Du, 36, faked her own obituary and forged a letter telling a Polk County judge she was dead.

 

Du is spending time in the Polk County Jail in connection with a forgery charge.

 

Court documents show that Du tried to avoid paying several tickets by sending a letter to the courthouse.

 

The letter is allegedly signed by Du's mother and said Du died on Dec. 5, according to court documents.

 

Investigators said the information submitted include a phony obituary made to look like a page from The Des Moines Register's Web site that said Du died in car accident, and her mother's signature was forged.

 

Du's mother said she didn't write or sign the letter. It's a case that leaves a legal expert scratching his head.

 

"The state still has to convince a jury of 12, but faking your own death is not a good idea," said Bob Rigg, of the Drake Law Clinic.

 

The case began to unravel when investigators said Du was stopped for another traffic ticket in January, which was a month after the obituary was dated.

 

The probe began at the county courthouse.

 

"If she did it, she now faces a felony instead of a misdemeanor," Rigg said.

 

He said that she probably she didn't think about the fact that she was getting out of simple misdemeanors by committing a class D felony, and going from a $500 fine to a five-year prison term.

 

Du now faces more trouble than before.

 

The Polk County Attorney's Office could not comment about the case except to say it has never seen anyone try it before."

 

Found here: Dumb bitch

[ivan]

very innovative

 

a macbeth like result though, eh? maybe she just needs to start fake-killing more folks...

[cj001f]

I bet Kimberley spent her life getting hit on by guys with mullets with first lines "So, are you related to Husker?"

[Roger]

If I enter a plea of no contest does this count as a conviction?

Yes. You don't admit guilt, but the result will be a conviction.