catbirdseat Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Cobra_Commander's post in Spray gave me an idea. I was torn between spray and being serious. Let the mods move this to spray if it goes that way. So you hear people like RuMR all the time saying things like, "I've been climbing for 20 years", etc. with the implication that because of that you should accept whatever assertion they happen to be making. I submit that it has almost no bearing on the reliability of their opinions other than to show they were around when a particular event might have occurred. I mean, some people by climbing very intensely with a large variety of partners can in a short time acquire a great deal of knowledge, for example Distel and Layton. Others who climb only occasionally and always with the same partners may have many years of experience but end up with a very narrow view of what's the proper way to do things. Only at the bottom he is confronted by a hoard of gaper stone rollers who spray about proper stone rolling technique and the ethics of gravity. The festering dialogue turns to "I have 30+ years of rolling stones and that's unsafe trundling...etc" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexual_chocolate Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Submission noted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexual_chocolate Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 And yes, of course it's spray. Moderators! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra_Commander Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 FKNA thanks for getting my name right with the underscore and everything. -Cobra_Commander Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPS Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I am embarassed to admit how long I have been climbing given how shitty I am at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted December 13, 2005 Author Share Posted December 13, 2005 I've been climbing for 7 years and I'm not ready to claim I know everything. Seems like I now have a good idea of what I don't know, whereas before I didn't know even that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHarry Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Its pretty clear that if someone went climbing in say, 1976, and hasn't climbed since, but claims they have been climbing for "30 years," they are probable not as experienced as a climber who has climbed prolifically for the past 5 years. Yes, CBS, you have a clean and firm grasp of the obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I've been climbing for 7 years and I'm not ready to claim I know everything. Seems like I now have a good idea of what I don't know, whereas before I didn't know even that. but dude...your knot knowledge is out of this world... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 There are things you know you don't know, and there are other things that you are too clueless to know that you don't know. These are the Rumsfield "unknown unknowns" and its when they show up that you get into deep shit. Remember "it is the wise man who knows he is a fool." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I mean, some people by climbing very intensely with a large variety of partners can in a short time acquire a great deal of knowledge, for example Distel and Layton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra_Commander Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Nice to see quotes from the warrior-poet Rumsfeld have made it into the discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted December 13, 2005 Author Share Posted December 13, 2005 What's so funny? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Distel is a bouldering nut...i don't think i'd classify him as well rounded.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra_Commander Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I hear his bowline tying technique is a disgrace... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squid Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 What's so funny? I want this bronzed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kix Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Distel is a bouldering nut...i don't think i'd classify him as well rounded.... pfff, adept at steep hard crimps and one handed goat milking. how rounded does one need to be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 but he keeps putting his harness on backwards... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Distel is a bouldering nut...i don't think i'd classify him as well rounded.... pfff, adept at steep hard crimps and one handed goat milking. how rounded does one need to be? What is the Other hand doing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squid Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 clapping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kix Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 stroking the yak? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra_Commander Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 polishing the genghis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ireneo_Funes Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I am embarassed to admit how long I have been climbing given how shitty I am at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I've been climbing for less time than just about anyone on this board, but I think CBS is saying that everyone should listen to me anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted December 13, 2005 Author Share Posted December 13, 2005 I would have to say that based on trip reports, you've been getting out, my friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_warfield Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Distel is a bouldering nut...i don't think i'd classify him as well rounded.... He IS well rounded at taking photos..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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