Peter_Puget Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 20' of amazingly sad video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 26 billion dollars in insurance claims is predicted. I wonder how this compares to the tsunami. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineK Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 The Tsunami killed a lot of people. I doubt this hurricane killed that many. It sure did fuck shit up though. Humans are very weak compared to natural forces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dechristo Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Humans are very weak compared to natural forces. True, but only their bodies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underworld Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 well those 'bad' natural forces pass - and for the most part, humans survive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra_Commander Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 and they f'ing rebuild in the exact same place again. I'm willing to have my taxes pay to help these people but NOT to rebuild in the same damn place with the attitude of we'll show nature who's in charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foraker Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 i bet they kind of feel that way about our earthquakes, active volcanoes, tsunamis, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra_Commander Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Earthquakes maybe, in California. But natural disasters that occur on 1000 - million year cycles really don't compare to living below sea level, on the coast, in an area that has devastating storms on a predictable annual basis. This was an inevitable situation, predicted by many. To rebuild everyone's homes in exactly the same place as some sort of act of defiance is just stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Think about all those rich people with the 8,000 sq ft homes build on sand spits up and down the East Coast who keep rebuilding with cheap Federal loan guarantees. Your tax dollars at work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra_Commander Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 It's just unfair to rebuild in the same area and invite a fairly poor population core back in, claiming it's safe again, when really it is not. Creating an elaborate pump system to keep back the sea just to because people want to live "right there" is ludicrous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisT Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Then where would the country celebrate Mardi Gras? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra_Commander Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 A couple miles inland. New Orleans is such a unique town with a lot of history, culture, and overall coolness, but it makes zero sense to try to maintain an urban metropolis on a shifting river delta, part of which is below sea level. It's insanity at face value. Now that they are required to make these decisions I hope it does not involve rebuilding in locations that are asking for trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisT Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 After the 1906 earthquake leveled SF, it was rebuilt on the exact same spot. They didn't seem to learn their lesson there either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra_Commander Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Perhaps, living in SF you are looking for trouble, but at least there is not an annual certainty that a major event will either brush the outskirts of the town, or wipe it out completely. Â If you consider Seattle or Portland, there is no question that at some point in the future, there will be a major, devastating natural event that will destroy much of the town with tremendous consequences. Whether it is a major earthquake, or lahar, it's inevitable based on the strata underneath. Yet the timescale on such an event is so large, that it seems more acceptable to live in these areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squid Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 This flood sucks ass. Â Put a cork in your second-guessing and self-righteous indignation for a day or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra_Commander Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Oh really? It sucks? You don't say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underworld Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 This flood sucks ass. Put a cork in your second-guessing and self-righteous indignation for a day or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshK Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Maybe Cobra didn't say it the best way (seemed rather straight-forward to me) but I have to agree somewhat. Think of the cities we have built that are in the most idiotic places imaginable. Like he said, New Orleans is under sea level. What!?!? That isn't a natural disaster, it's a natural reality - the place is a flood plain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 With sea level rise, and stronger storms as the climate warms, there will only be more of this if they rebuild in the same location. Time to face the facts and build inland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshK Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Another example is idiot desert city building...for example, Phoenix and Vegas...they are ecological disasters. They might be safe from weather, etc. but they were about the worst places to build cities possible. Even LA fucked shit up real bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 When Phoenix and Vegas run out of water the refugees will move to Seattle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 And Seattle will move to Hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 On its tiny little cat like feet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Obviously there are many cities that are not very safe. We should gridbolt them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squid Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 If you feel like that ruins your city experience, you should just not clip the bolts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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