Z-Man Posted August 20, 2005 Posted August 20, 2005 ...who stray off the trail at a popular and well-marked, but fragile, place like the meadows above Paradise at Rainier. I say something to probably half of the people I see making new dirt tracks through the flowers in places like this, but I can't keep up with everyone and feel bad about lecturing people on something so obvious in front of others. What do you do? Quote
Dru Posted August 20, 2005 Posted August 20, 2005 ...who stray off the trail at a popular and well-marked, but fragile, place like the meadows above Paradise at Rainier. I say something to probably half of the people I see making new dirt tracks through the flowers in places like this, but I can't keep up with everyone and feel bad about lecturing people on something so obvious in front of others. What do you do? Â don't say anything, just shoot them! that will make the rest of the herd, even more scared and they will avoid any transgressions. Quote
Dru Posted August 20, 2005 Posted August 20, 2005 i hope you grammarians, liked my gratuitous, commas in these posts. Quote
Double_E Posted August 20, 2005 Posted August 20, 2005 unless you are professionally trained in giving a total stranger an unsolicited lecture about what they should or shouldn't do ....... don't do it. chances are you're just gonna piss them off and give them a general disdain for those who care about such matters, and perhaps even about the matters themselves. Â leave it to the rangers to do the lecturing. Quote
adventuregal Posted August 20, 2005 Posted August 20, 2005 when I was living in michigan, I had a customer ask me what time the northern lights turned on at... Â Quote
pale Posted August 20, 2005 Posted August 20, 2005 Overheard at a restaurant in Washington - "What time do they let the animals come out?" Â 5 minutes later "Whose draining that big lake over there?" (the restaurant was by a large ocean bay) Quote
EWolfe Posted August 20, 2005 Posted August 20, 2005 "Eeeeevilllll lies in that field! Â Eeeeevil!" Quote
Z-Man Posted August 20, 2005 Author Posted August 20, 2005 I don't actually lecture them, just try to politely ask them to stay on the trail as it damages the fragile meadows, and move on. Anyone who's been up to Rainier has seen the beat-out dirt along the already eight-feet wide paths leading up to Pan Point. I mean they freaking paved the trail and people still stray all over the place, right past signs that say "stay on the trail." Quote
kix Posted August 20, 2005 Posted August 20, 2005 just tell them the trail dust contains lyme disease from the tick poop. Quote
adventuregal Posted August 20, 2005 Posted August 20, 2005 I've also been asked "What time of year do the deer turn into elk?" Quote
foraker Posted August 20, 2005 Posted August 20, 2005 [with one bug eye] "Stay on the road! Stay off the moors!" Quote
lummox Posted August 20, 2005 Posted August 20, 2005 i just fukin growl at people i despise. which is pretty much everyone. Quote
whirlwind Posted August 20, 2005 Posted August 20, 2005 i'd pretent to be an under cover park ranger on patrol explain to them what they did was wrong and its a 1000 dollar fine, but i may be preswaded to not right them a fat ticket for a mer 100 bucks cash then after they gave me the money i'd kick em in the nutts and run but thats just me Quote
Dave_Schuldt Posted August 21, 2005 Posted August 21, 2005 I give people shit for skiding on thier mountain bikes, they blow me off, hopefuly next time they will think twice. Quote
archenemy Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 unless you are professionally trained in giving a total stranger an unsolicited lecture about what they should or shouldn't do ....... don't do it. chances are you're just gonna piss them off and give them a general disdain for those who care about such matters, and perhaps even about the matters themselves. The irony is killing me. Quote
archenemy Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 And he's been solicited a time or two most likely. Quote
catbirdseat Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 It's amazing how well people handle a few words of advice if you just use some simple words like please and thank you. People want to do the right thing. It's hard to believe, but they just don't know they are doing something wrong. Quote
barjor Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 They should change the system. Fine anyone leaving the trail 500$ and make sure they enforce it. Sell bottled water at Muir for 100$ a bottle. Anyone picking flowers should be fined 1000$. I am pretty sure that would cover the cost for all climbing rangers because there are plenty of stupid people up there. Quote
artschool Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 [with one bug eye] "Stay on the road! Stay off the moors!" Quote
archenemy Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 Seriously though, it isn't tough to just say, "I beg you pardon, but I believe we are supposed to stay on the trails". Quote
foraker Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 Seriously though, it isn't tough to just say, "I beg you pardon, but I believe we are supposed to stay on the trails". Â I'd be curious to know how well that's working out for you. In my experience, even being polite, people, in general, will ignore you and do what they damn well please or tell you to F**k off and then do as they damn well please. Haven't had someone try to assault me yet though. Quote
archenemy Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 When the tourists are from overseas, I follow it up with "Did you know that all Americans have the right to bear arms?" all deadly serious and shit. Quote
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