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Crampon

GPS Coordinates.....

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I wanted to find other good UTM's, or GPS Coordinates on Mt Rainier....Like significant places,...eg...Summit, turn offs...etc.....

 

I already have the UTM's for Muir, PC, And Paradise from the NPS link.....

 

 

 

Thank you

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Not sure of your nav expertise (no disrespect is intended), but think of this as a good oppt'y to practice some map skills.

 

Using your map, plot your own GPS coord (UTM, lat/long, etc. - pick your pref) of known, fixed locations (e.g., top of DC). Once you have those points - check them against a reliable source. You'll get your coords and get some practice.

 

The coords can help but they won't do much to help w/routefinding.

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Buy CD "National Parks" - includes Rainier NP.

Buy GPS - PC cable

Download waypoint

 

Total time - 3 minutes.

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I wanted to find other good UTM's, or GPS Coordinates on Mt Rainier....Like significant places,...eg...Summit, turn offs...etc.....

 

I already have the UTM's for Muir, PC, And Paradise from the NPS link.....

 

 

 

Thank you

 

Good god; what's up with modern climbers. All you need is a map and a compass. You could take a GPS too; that would make things easier.

 

LEARN HOW TO NAVIGATE BEFORE YOU GO TO MUIR

 

Maybe you need to take your mom along. She could hold your hand as you descend from Muir. shocked.gif

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Good god; what's up with modern climbers. All you need is a map and a compass. ...[snip]

 

...and an altimeter if you want to be damn sure. But you're right - sighting fall lines with your compass and comparing it to your topo will get you pretty damn close.

 

GPSs are a nice backup on a glacier in a whiteout or when a cloudcap engulfs you. But other than that, they're a freakin' waste of time. How many times you folks out there heard this...

 

"Oh wait... I only have 2 satellites. Oh, wait. There's three. Oh... just lost that one. Hmmm... do you really think we're at 3,050 ft? (When you're actually at 5210 ft.) Oh... that third satellite just came ba... nevermind. Hmmm. What did your altimeter say again?..."

 

Yup... instills such confidence in new fangled gadgetry.

 

Ok... done with my rant.

 

-kurt

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I just knit a wool sweater on my way up if the weather changes. smile.gif

 

Good for you. At least you came prepared with the rudimentary items and skills you need to survive.

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That's just it skills + smarts will get you out of most perdicaments.

 

If you're too lazy to gain some practical experience before you go out on your big trip then you deserve most of whatever bad happens to you.

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I was asking for UTM's , not various life lessons on Compass use thank you.....

 

Now if you dont know where to get the UTM's then thank you.

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Well, you could just pull them off the map. REI sells a scale to get higher resolution than provided by the area topos.

 

But that's using a map. I think we might want to avoid that.

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Well, you could just pull them off the map. REI sells a scale to get higher resolution than provided by the area topos.

 

But that's using a map. I think we might want to avoid that.

 

Exactly, if you knew how to use a map you wouldn't have to ask. rolleyes.gif

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Basic map & compass skills should come before you ever look at a GPS. Nevertheless, if you insist on taking shortcuts I suggest leaving the unit turned on from the parking lot and leaving a data track for you to follow back in the event you get fogged in. At the very least, mark every major change in direction with an on-site waypoint.

Generally, I DO trust the little gadgets above treeline. This is where they seem most reliable. Bring extra batteries. If you're following your GPS on a whited-out descent you must trust your device and overcome your innate desire to follow your (likely poor) instincts. This isn't as easy as it sounds. Follow the track/pointer. Kinda like flying through a storm instruments only, I suppose.

 

Take an orienteering course before you become frozen meat somewhere on/in Paradise Glacier.

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Take an orienteering course before you become frozen meat somewhere on/in Paradise Glacier.

Hell yes! I'm pretty sure even REI offers a free map and compass course. Or maybe it's $15 or something. A map and compass do not need batteries. Take the course.

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Im sorta poor money wise, and Id like to perhaps learn through some people here if they have time......Hint?

 

I do admit, I know I need to learn this before I become another SAR example......

 

So coming from a guy with no cash.......

 

.......Can anyone here help me learn it.....?

 

Please?

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Buy Freedom Of the Hills and a USGS Topo map of an area nearby. Take compass, book, and map to said location and figure it out.

 

It isn't hard, really.

 

Hint - pick an area with a lot of topographic features. I like the Snoqualmie Pass map.

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NO.........!

 

I want someone to teach me......A six pack, and some company......No other options...

 

If ya dont help me learn it, then...........

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Hell yes! I'm pretty sure even REI offers a free map and compass course. Or maybe it's $15 or something. A map and compass do not need batteries. Take the course.

 

Did you not see this crampon??.........you can't be that broke

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