Alex Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 "..but dont recruit our children!" http://www.komotv.com/stories/36242.htm Here is a proposal for you: -- if we are going to continue to foster the idea that our society can use military force to further our country's agenda on a global scale, I would like to see mandatory military active duty for all young American's, both men and women, for at least one year after high school graduation. (Thereafter the soldiers must remain as reservists for a period of time.) I believe that if parents are confronted with sending their own children, not just the (predominantly poor) children of their neighbors, into the combat zones that are created out of our society's consumer-driven need to drive SUVs and snort some blow, people might start thinking much harder about the officials they elect and the foreign policy decisions those officials make. Until that day that your own children sign up for active duty and go to some place like Iraq, the little yellow ribbons on your trucks are a slap on the face to ever serving member of the armed forces. Peace out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbw1966 Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 well said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 "..but dont recruit our children!" http://www.komotv.com/stories/36242.htm Here is a proposal for you: -- if we are going to continue to foster the idea that our society can use military force to further our country's agenda on a global scale, I would like to see mandatory military active duty for all young American's, both men and women, for at least one year after high school graduation. (Thereafter the soldiers must remain as reservists for a period of time.) I believe that if parents are confronted with sending their own children, not just the (predominantly poor) children of their neighbors, into the combat zones that are created out of our society's consumer-driven need to drive SUVs and snort some blow, people might start thinking much harder about the officials they elect and the foreign policy decisions those officials make. Until that day that your own children sign up for active duty and go to some place like Iraq, the little yellow ribbons on your trucks are a slap on the face to ever serving member of the armed forces. Peace out Nah, let's just make military service mandatory for every war protestor. After they pay their dues fighting for a year or two, then they have the right to protest in good faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitandbefit Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 Or else they will be dead, which also satisfies the conservative agenda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbw1966 Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 Nah, let's just make military service mandatory for every war protestor. After they pay their dues fighting for a year or two, then they have the right to protest in good faith. How long did you serve? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 How long did you serve? Nice try, Torquemada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 You, KK, are the first person I'd sent to Iraq. It would straighten you out right quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 You, KK, are the first person I'd sent to Iraq. It would straighten you out right quick. fuck you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitandbefit Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 that rhetoric broke down quick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbw1966 Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 How long did you serve? Nice try, Torquemada. Nice try at what? If you are arguing that the only legitimate voice of protest is that which has served its country than I would think you would agree the converse is true, that is if you support our countries war efforts the only legitimate way is to serve. I wasn't making any personal attack. Lets not call each other names, hmm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 that rhetoric broke down quick if you go ad hominem, expect a response Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foraker Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 if we don't have a draft to be avoided, where will our future politicians come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbw1966 Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 Canada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 Canada Canadian Politicians Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 let's just make military service mandatory yeah it works so well for Russia! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 let's just make military service mandatory yeah it works so well for Russia! Israel has mandatory military duty for all citizens - probably a better example than Rossiya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foraker Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 i don't see it as solving any real problems though it might be a handy bromide for the effects bad parenting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 i don't see it as solving any real problems though it might be a handy bromide for the effects bad parenting. when the US has had a draft, it has led to more loss of life and less restraint, IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisT Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 I would like to see mandatory military active duty for all young American's, both men and women, for at least one year after high school graduation. (Thereafter the soldiers must remain as reservists for a period of time.) They're already doing this in Israel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selkirk Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 But again, how evenly was the draft applied? It may have been random in concept, but it seems that political strings can get pulled, and were back to the loss of life being a somewhat abstract concept for those making the decisions, instead of the loss of life possibly including their sons and daughters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mec Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 I like how people complain about aggressive military recruiters, but you don't hear as much about aggressive college recruiters, credit card company recruiters, or other types of aggressive marketers. They are all the same. They are all just marketers. The people complaining against the military recruiters are just anti-war and want no one to sign up and they look for any excuse to fight against war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 But again, how evenly was the draft applied? It may have been random in concept, but it seems that political strings can get pulled, and were back to the loss of life being a somewhat abstract concept for those making the decisions, instead of the loss of life possibly including their sons and daughters. Even if a draft is applied equally, strings will be pulled regarding where/in what capacity draftees are assigned. Not everyone serves a combat role on the front line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucK Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 I like how people complain about aggressive military recruiters, but you don't hear as much about aggressive college recruiters, credit card company recruiters, or other types of aggressive marketers. They are all the same. They are all just marketers. The people complaining against the military recruiters are just anti-war and want no one to sign up and they look for any excuse to fight against war. If you think that people who steal your money are somehow equivalent to people who steal your children, then I'm not sure this is even worth rebutting. Surely there are people who are against this war who are using any avenue they can to fight it. But to dismiss the possibility that some may be primarly motivated to fight this recruiting because they would rather their children not be tricked into an unbreakable contract (for life!) that involves signficant risk of death or disability, is a very dumb thing to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 I like how people complain about aggressive military recruiters, but you don't hear as much about aggressive college recruiters, credit card company recruiters, or other types of aggressive marketers. They are all the same. They are all just marketers. The people complaining against the military recruiters are just anti-war and want no one to sign up and they look for any excuse to fight against war. Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. When was the last time Bank of America sent you off to die in exchange for a low introductory APR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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