hendorama Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 I have been climbing for a while, but have heard some people recently talking about going hooking when it is raining, and sometimes using hooking through a burly part of a climb or something. I have never done any kind of aid climbing so I am a newbie in this arena. What are peoples take on hooking as a pastime or a crutch? Quote
Alpinfox Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 I don't think that its legal in Washington. Quote
rbw1966 Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 Black Diamond Talon can usually help you through those blank spots where you can't pull on gear. Fits in a chalk bag nicely. Quote
Lambone Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 if you are using hooks to get through a free section, then they are a crutch. If you jump on a climb planning to use aid (including hooks) then they are a passtime. an exiting passtime nonetheless. Quote
hendorama Posted September 17, 2004 Author Posted September 17, 2004 So here is another question. A buddy was telling me that when it rains, he just goes hooking on routes he likes. But it seems like the hooks could damage holds more often and all that good stuff...so is that bad form? Quote
bDubyaH Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 if the routes he likes are in fact choss piles, then that is fine form. hooks on occassion do blow out/chip holds. i wouldn't get on any classic lines as you could end up making some enemies (if they are out in the rain and notice, or your silly enough to talk about hooking up an established free climb). Quote
Squid Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 See above for a schematic of proper hooking technique and gear. In this diagram, the climber is hooking an established 'clean' route, thus the extra equipment (gun, to silence sprayers). Hook safely; wear a helmet. Quote
specialed Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 Why do you need to practice scaring the shit out of yourself? Quote
Dru Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 If you just go "hooking", not aid climbing, in the rain it probably means you are hooking up a sport route with closely spaced bolts to catch you if you whip. I'm all in favour of that. If you bust off a hold it will infuriate the stick-clippers and they'll get their lycra knotted. Quote
Melinda Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 I have been climbing for a while, but have heard some people recently talking about going hooking when it is raining, and sometimes using hooking through a burly part of a climb or something. I have never done any kind of aid climbing so I am a newbie in this arena. What are peoples take on hooking as a pastime or a crutch? I have to hook sometimes when my man is in Iraq and blows all his cash on street walkers on leave in Kuwait. but seriously why not? Quote
Ireneo_Funes Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 See above for a schematic of proper hooking technique and gear. In this diagram, the climber is hooking an established 'clean' route, thus the extra equipment (gun, to silence sprayers). Hook safely; wear a helmet. The funny thing is, when I was a kid I thought that's how people climbed stuff...by tossing up a grappling hook and climbing the rope hand over hand. Quote
Squid Posted September 17, 2004 Posted September 17, 2004 I have to hook sometimes when my man is in Iraq and blows all his cash on street walkers on leave in Kuwait. .and Melinda makes a classic entry! Give the lurker 9 points for style! Quote
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