willstrickland Posted March 9, 2004 Share Posted March 9, 2004 I can't find any Petzl keylock lockers like the ones I have/had. Who's making a screwgate keylock these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Yngve Posted March 9, 2004 Share Posted March 9, 2004 Kong has some keylock oval lockers. BD has the positron keylock locker. Petzl has the Attache and the HMS that are both keylock, I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macson Posted March 9, 2004 Share Posted March 9, 2004 http://store.karstsports.com/petm70okcar.html  I get these in Port Townsend at the local rigging shop that usually has them in stock, but you should be able to get them online pretty easily. Type "petzl ok" in google. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squid Posted March 9, 2004 Share Posted March 9, 2004 You're prolly looking for the Petzl attache: Â http://www.rei.com/online/store/ProductDisplay?storeId=8000&catalogId=40000008000&productId=978&parent_category_rn=4500680 Â Available at both REI & Feathered Friends here in Seattle- shouldn't be too hard to get from AMH in Anchorage (do they have a Fairbanks store?) BD also makes the locking Positron biner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willstrickland Posted March 9, 2004 Author Share Posted March 9, 2004 Just got a few Positrons blems from Starved rock $8...price is nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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catbirdseat Posted March 9, 2004 Share Posted March 9, 2004 I have the BD Positron Keylock and I like it. Â As it is made of antimatter, one must constantly take care to avoid contact with ordinary matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracked Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 I thought all BD biners are made of aluminum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abalch Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 I have the BD Positron Keylock and I like it. Â As it is made of antimatter, one must constantly take care to avoid contact with ordinary matter. Â Great one!! For all the rest out there--positrons are positvely charged friends of electrons--same size, etc., hence the antimatter reference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dulton Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 I have the BD Positron Keylock and I like it.  As it is made of antimatter, one must constantly take care to avoid contact with ordinary matter.  Great one!! For all the rest out there--positrons are positvely charged friends of electrons--same size, etc., hence the antimatter reference.  ahhh i see  I have a Petzel attache, me like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicMtnBoy Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 Kong makes a nice locking keylock modified D and a keylock oval. Liberty Mountain distributes em, so check your local stores to see if anyone is a dealer or look it up on the web. I'm sure you can buy em online somewhere, I really like mine although I haven't used the petzl keylock lockers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawgoddess Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 i think all of petzl's lockers (am'd, ok, william, attache) are keylock, and they all come in a screwgate version. Â i mostly use the am'd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billygoat Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 I definitely dig the am'd  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip_M._Kliphiem Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 So why have you, TLG & Billygoat, choosen the am'd over the other Petzel options? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boatskiclimbsail Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 Despite the lack of ovals and super light D's, I think Petzl makes some of the best sh*t going. They used to make a screwgate spirit, but haven't done so for 6 or 7 years. Kong makes a strikingly similar product. As for the big lockers, I dislike the Attache, I find the top to be too wide to stay put and the bottom too narrow to seat properly in a sling or harness. I'm a huge fan of the William and Am'D though. I'm all about the ball-lock. Some of my partners have cursed the ball-lock system to the point where I use different biners when climbing with them to avoid crucifixion. I've had one that I've been using since just after they came out (4 years?) and still have no problems with it, even iced up with heavy gloves. I like the William because it is huge and the bottom curve is just the right size to sit on a belay loop or harness tie point. The Am'D balllocks are sweet for anything you need to be locked that you aren't attending (top-rope anchors for example) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willstrickland Posted March 10, 2004 Author Share Posted March 10, 2004 I like the William because it is huge and the bottom curve is just the right size  Yah, a few of my girlfriends said the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtom Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 Despite the lack of ovals and super light D's, I think Petzl makes some of the best sh*t going. So what's this? Â Â Answer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boatskiclimbsail Posted March 11, 2004 Share Posted March 11, 2004 Maybe I should have preceded "ovals" and "d"s with "cheap". $8 apiece for an oval?? I'll pay it for the Sprits because there is nothing comparable but for a workhorse biner of which one needs 80 or so, I'll stick to the $2 variety... Â ...and I'll be dipped, last I knew Pezl only made a locking oval. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawgoddess Posted March 13, 2004 Share Posted March 13, 2004 The Am'D balllocks are sweet yes, they are. it's funny because i climb with people all the time who have never seen the spinballs. they usually figure it out, but you have to wonder about the ones who can't! sometimes the spinners get sticky so i think it'd be nice to have some screwgates, too, but the spinballs are very sweet. Â mr. skip: i like the am'd because it's big and beautiful. they are big enough to be useful for just about any and everything i'd want a locker for but not annoyingly big - if that makes any sense. (they also have an "exceptional strength to weight ratio".) the william is quite a bit heavier and just feels bulky to me. the attache can be nice for simple anchors (and i use them on my adjustable daisies), but the pear shape coupled with it's small size causes stuff to bunch up at the bottom ... which can be annoying. i've also had trouble getting the attache to fit into some chains and bolts because of the circumference of the tubing and the width of the top part of the pear, whereas i've never had any trouble getting the am'd to fit. just my own opinions and experience ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squid Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 Sadly, the AMD's are set up for right-handed people- unlocking them bites ass if you're a lefty like me (even Squids are chiral). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelawgoddess Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 huh? the spinballs lock/unlock in either direction, and i use my left hand all the time. so what's *your* problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambone Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 Does anybody know of an auto-lock key gate biner? I'd love to get my hands on two for aiding. thks, Bone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squid Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 so what's *your* problem? Â Uh.. I don't wanna discuss it here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Yngve Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 Does anybody know of an auto-lock key gate biner? I'd love to get my hands on two for aiding. thks, Bone  auto-locking keylock biner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambone Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 Thanks Gary, acctually i bought one of those, but it didn't work for my intended purpose. That biner has a gaurd that makes you pull up on the gate befor eit will twist open. Kind of like the old BD Superlock biner. Â I use them on my daisies and need to be able to open it easily with a thumb. This biner is too hard to open over and over again with just yer thumb. Â Anyway, I don't think it exists... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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