RuMR Posted February 17, 2004 Posted February 17, 2004 w/ trango's max cam [/img] range from about ~ just less than 2" to 0.8" Quote
Dru Posted February 17, 2004 Posted February 17, 2004 its cool to see new designs that blueprint makes it seem like a real clusterfuck if it overcams! Quote
RuMR Posted February 17, 2004 Author Posted February 17, 2004 They are running around 90$ or so...kill your follower if he can't get it out... Quote
Dru Posted February 17, 2004 Posted February 17, 2004 i'm not actually really sure what the point of it is...it has a much wider range, so you carry like 3 of them instead of 6 regular cams, then you only have 3 cams... maybe for the alpine, but it has more moving parts and so on, so 3 of them weigh about the same as 5 or 6 regular cams.... Quote
RuMR Posted February 17, 2004 Author Posted February 17, 2004 not sure either...other than maybe engaging more of a flare's walls???? I don't know...seems overly complicated for sumpin that a plain ol' friend or camalot would handle no problems... Plus the are $pendy... Quote
Dru Posted February 17, 2004 Posted February 17, 2004 all the recent "innovations" in protection, I'm thinking those John Long 2-lobed steel cams, Splitter Gear cams, Removeable Bolts, seem to have tanked or been of limited new utility. the last one that was actually useful was the hybrid alien and offset friends. Quote
RuMR Posted February 17, 2004 Author Posted February 17, 2004 yeah...but that trango max cam seems solid and is competively priced w/ camalots...should be a winner... this omega deal, i dunno about...looks like trying to fly a brick (gold as well)...won't fly period... Quote
catbirdseat Posted February 18, 2004 Posted February 18, 2004 So where can one go to actually look at said cams? Stuff is getting so expense that people will start making their followers post bond. Quote
JayB Posted February 19, 2004 Posted February 19, 2004 I've wanted to get triples in hand sizes for a long time - I might consider getting one of these in the place of another number two and number three. Or I could just use the hexes that I've already got for the odd climb where I'd actually want to triple-up - but I could see myself having a moment of weakness in a gear shop and shelling out for one of these if the initial feedback is good. Quote
lummox Posted February 19, 2004 Posted February 19, 2004 i will wait for the consumer testing. i predict high price and high susceptibility to getting sticky --thats a lot of moving parts. Quote
Peter_Puget Posted February 19, 2004 Posted February 19, 2004 Looks like it would be hard to place in its smallest configuration. Quote
Greg_W Posted February 19, 2004 Posted February 19, 2004 I would echo Dru's sentiment that, yes, you can cover the range of six cams with only three, but then you only have three cams. Too many moving parts worry me. Also, the unit looks longer when retracted and thus may not be conducive to shallower cracks. Standard cams are time-tested, and are relatively simple mechanism. This looks to complex, not to mention heavy. Greg_W Quote
catbirdseat Posted February 19, 2004 Posted February 19, 2004 i will wait for the consumer testing. i predict high price and high susceptibility to getting sticky --thats a lot of moving parts. That video clip is facinating. It's sort of like lummox's avatar image. You just keep staring at it in wonderment. Quote
cj001f Posted February 19, 2004 Posted February 19, 2004 I've wanted to get triples in hand sizes for a long time - I might consider getting one of these in the place of another number two and number three. This seems the big attraction to me of the new wide range camming units - instead of owning a couple sets of cams - own one. Is their any good reason (aside from pride, simplicity & cost) you wouldn't want the most versatile pro period? Quote
dberdinka Posted February 19, 2004 Posted February 19, 2004 Hear! Hear! Awesome engineering, but I think most peoples will quickly realize they'd rather have more cams with less range. Quote
shapp Posted February 19, 2004 Posted February 19, 2004 The only reason I can think of to get this monstrosity is for aiding in the crack "jumaring" fashion like cam hooks. But it is also simple to crack jumar with two or three cam sizes on each aider biner. I really can't see buying these for any reason. Quote
cracked Posted February 20, 2004 Posted February 20, 2004 They look cool! All these arguments are the same ones that are given against Camalots, yet I still love them. I'm looking forward to seeing these things in store so I can fondle them! Quote
southernmtguide Posted July 16, 2004 Posted July 16, 2004 Just a heads up to check out the Omega site in the next few days....Could be a couple of things worth checking out... Quote
ashw_justin Posted July 16, 2004 Posted July 16, 2004 Surely that can't be the most elegant way of increasing range? It's just so complicated... Quote
cracked Posted July 16, 2004 Posted July 16, 2004 That's what they said when Jardine invented the tool we all use and love now. Quote
ashw_justin Posted July 16, 2004 Posted July 16, 2004 You mean back in the old days, Paul? heheheh Quote
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