southernmtguide

Rain or shine! Parking Lot Sale..Lots of stuff...OK, I need to clean out the garage to get the wifes car in for the winter. All kinds of outdoor gear and sporting goods for sale. Skis, Boots, Hockey Gear, Skates, Tents, Sleeping Bags, Climbing Gear both new and used, Ropes, Mountain Khakis pants, Mad Rock SHoes, Ice boots, crampons, screws, racks, biners, Outdoor Research Jackets, Packs, Fleece, Bivy Bags, Black Diamond, Ice Axes and Tools, Baseball, Kelty Tents, North Face Tents, all kinds of stuff. I have been in the outdoor industry for over 20 years and have accumulated way too much stuff.. All of the new stuff are photo samples and are barely used. All kinds of other stuff that we have either updated, or just have more than one of. Guidebooks, magazines, posters, stickers....over 20 years of accumulated stuff needs to go...no reasonable offers refused... Friday Oct 12th- 12-5 Saturday Oct 13th 8-4 Sunday Oct 14th 8-12 This is being held in the parking lot of 7406 East Sprague Ave, Spokane Valley WA. If you have any questions, feel free to drop me an email; southernmtguide@earthlink.net

Matt, give me a call one of these days. I need to sell off everything I own so I can hire a hit man, just like you. Seriously, I want to sell the netire quiver, need help with it...I may have a yard sale down at the studio...over thirty years worth of shit, guidebooks, gear, artifacts,everything. Help me get rid of it, and I will let you bury her body up on my hill. 230-9785

Hey EB, I think we should all stay away from Off widths!

Anyone on the Eastside? I have an eight year old that is starting to catch the bug.

90%, really. Where did you find this out at?

neclimbs.com

Multnomah Falls.

The Cable was almost touching down yesterday. Even Cowgirls get the Blues was in, a bit thin, but leadable. Should get better with the weather we have forecast for the next week or so.

The Cable is coming in, about 15 feet off the deck. Thanks to whomever beefed up the anchor this weekend.. Even Cowgirls Get the Blues was led yesterday. Going to be a good week if it stays cold.

Has anyone been out to Banks Lake, Copper Falls, Stevens over the past weekend? Any good news as to any ice in condition?

Made a quick drive over to Banks this morning, should have stayed home. Nothing really in. Conditions are sparse to say the least. The best formed route was The Cable, and that was little more than thick verglass. The deathsickles above the Punchbowl have come in, but everything below them is crap. So, save yourself some time, and head somewhere else for the next couple weeks.

Has anyone been out to Banks the past few days, and if so, anything in yet?

I got my book today. All I have to say is go and buy it today! The book is fantastic. I have never seen a nicer guidebook. I wish all guides could be this well done. JoJo, keep up the great work!

I was at Gart again yesterday, and they had a bunch more of these skis, as well as a super lighweight set of Dynastars for $ 90.00 bones. I have not skied those, but, man were they light....

They are great skis. I bought a couple pairs of the at Gart Sports, for $189.00. The Spokane store still has a couple pairs.....

Dude, you are so wrong about my involvement here. I am an adult, with a free mind and spirit. I posted the questions on this board, directed to you in regards to the meeting on my on volition, not my boss's. I asked what the results of the meeting were here in a public forum not to "stir up the pot" but to find out what your proposed course of action was to be, and how all climbers involved could get involved and provide input.I also do not consider asking you questions in this forum to be a "pissing match" as you stated. Just trying to figure out where you were taking us. I did ask Michael to tell me about the meeting, and I heard his version. The reason I posted was because I thought the community should also know of the meeting, and the results. I, as well as many others still do not know what your proposed solution to this mess is. Why dont you let everyone know what you want to see as an end result?

No problem. I should have said that the reply was based on two seperate threads.

To clarify: Dane did; "Thanks Hero" thread. Starts "Hey Gary,How about instead of a pissing match with me, do something useful and schedule your own meeeting with the BOD and then lets all wait to see what they come up with as a management plan at Dishman...and how we can all help?"

Dude, you are so wrong about my involvement here. I am an adult, with a free mind and spirit. I posted the questions on this board, directed to you in regards to the meeting on my on volition, not my boss's. I asked what the results of the meeting were here in a public forum not to "stir up the pot" but to find out what your proposed course of action was to be, and how all climbers involved could get involved and provide input.I also do not consider asking you questions in this forum to be a "pissing match" as you stated. Just trying to figure out where you were taking us. I did ask Michael to tell me about the meeting, and I heard his version. The reason I posted was because I thought the community should also know of the meeting, and the results. I, as well as many others still do not know what your proposed solution to this mess is. Why dont you let everyone know what you want to see as an end result?

Well, I did ask the man "20 feet away from my desk" otherwise I would not have even known to ask about the "Meeting", seeing as it was not mentioned in any of your posts. That is something I really do not understand. Why the secrecy in this meeting betwwen you and the Board of Directors of the Water District? If you truly have the best interests of Spokane climbing and climbers at heart, one would think that their would be some open, public dialog between you, and the Spokane climbing community that you have taken responsibility for represeting. What exactly did you present to the Board as a "Plan" for Dishman? Granted, most on the participants on this board have no problem with the 3 points you have made in regards to your stance on ethics at Dishman. Those are yours and others opinions. It is also cool that you have literaly put your money where your mouth is, and paid for a full page ad in Rock and Ice. What I think you are missing is the fact that you, and you alone do not represent all of the climbers that utilise Dishman. It is not right that you think that you know what is best for all and keep everyone out of the loop so you can push forth your agenda, whatever that may be. I know that right before the meeting, you asked the Access Fund Representative, the "man I sit 20 feet away from" not to present at the meeting, because his, and The Access Funds Mission Statement was at odds with what your new goups Mission Statement was. Most climbers agree that The Access Fund is a voice of reason, and represents all climbers well, and has a good public voice. One that is not driven by ego, or hidden agendas. So, I guess the point of this post is to ask that you to post an extract of what you presented to the Board of Directors on Monday, and open it up for discussion with any who really care.

So, It has been 24 hours since a meeting between Dane and the Water District that owns the land at Dishman. Why no posting or reports as to what transpired there. I was under the impression that a proposal was being presented by Dane to the Water Disrict that would affect the future of access and climbing there.I dont understand why no one is talking about this, when everyone has been so prolific up to now. On another note, my new Rock and Ice magazine hit the office, and I spent a few minutes trying to figure out the full page ad taken out in it that showed 4 pictures of what apears to be Dishman. What is the message? Who paid for this, and what is the point? Someone is really fueling the fires.

Thanks for the clarification. No harm done and the lady just needs to lighten up. What does one expect at Smith on a Fall weekend.

How did the first party complete the route with your wife on it. Did your wife clean the first party's gear, or did the first party's belayer second the route, passing your wife?

Has there been any contact with those that were at the REI Meeting that had been in favor of the bolts, etc. since the discovery of the re-bolting? From the reports that were both posted online and from people that had been present, I thought the majority of those individuals were also in favor of cleaning up Dishman as well. Perhaps they can help persuade whomever re-bolted the routes to clean up their mess. And I do mean mess in a most literal way. What I saw yesterday was new bolts placed inches away from broken studs. Even the most clueless person happening upon this crag will be able to sense that something insidious is happening at this crag.