Cando Posted February 9, 2004 Posted February 9, 2004 Need to purchase a set skins for a new pair of BD Mira's. What does everybody like/dislike about whatever they are using? I leaning towards the BCA Low Fats. Opinions? Experience with? Thanks in advance. Quote
scot'teryx Posted February 9, 2004 Posted February 9, 2004 Ascensions are on sale at cascade crags for 110mm (miras are 112mm at the tip) BD Ascension Skins on Sale <insert plug here> Quote
thelawgoddess Posted February 9, 2004 Posted February 9, 2004 i use the bd clipfix on my public enemies. i like 'em. and i haven't found anything i don't like about 'em yet. Quote
cj001f Posted February 9, 2004 Posted February 9, 2004 i use the bd clipfix on my public enemies. i like 'em. and i haven't found anything i don't like about 'em yet. They seem to stay on twintips better than regular tips. On my Crossbows, until I installed the rat-tail ala wildsnow, the stupid clips would unclip all the time. Irritating. Â I've not heard anything good about Low-Fats. Quote
b-rock Posted February 9, 2004 Posted February 9, 2004 i use the bd clipfix too. never used anything else. i broke one of the clipfix thingies off once, but since i bought them at rei they were replaced free of charge. Quote
iain Posted February 10, 2004 Posted February 10, 2004 I have used both clipfix and sts glidelite tails for a bit and I would go for the newer glidelite sts attachments now. As your skins get wet over the course of a tour, they stretch a bit, making the clipfix hard to keep tight. The STS attachment flexes a bit, so it stays secure. The glidelite skins fold up into a smaller package too. Either will do just fine though, and I think Ascension still has the best skins out there. Quote
PaulB Posted February 10, 2004 Posted February 10, 2004 I've got both Ascension ClipFix and G3's. They both do the job, but I prefer the G3 system. With the ClipFix you need to have the length of the skin just right, or when it gets really cold, they shrink and you can't cam the clip over the tail of the ski. Conversely, when its warm, its easy for the clip to come undone as the skins stretch. Â If you plan to use one set of skins with two (or more) pairs of similar length skis, I'd go with the G3 (or the BD GlideLite) system. Easier to adjust for small changes in length without having to muck around with the fold over at the tip. Quote
thelawgoddess Posted February 10, 2004 Posted February 10, 2004 i wanted to try the g3 skin but they never seem to have them in stock when i check. (talking direct from g3, yo!) Quote
skykilo Posted February 10, 2004 Posted February 10, 2004 I had Clipfix and I think you'd do just as well to not put anything on the tail, maybe even better since a little metal clip wouldn't be pulling the skin off when it fails. Â I have the G3's right now, and I must say I think they kick ass. The adjustment system is more versatile, and can adjust for expansion and contraction of the skins. Quote
skykilo Posted February 10, 2004 Posted February 10, 2004 I didn't read all the above posts. Is there an echo in here? Is there a reason you can't get G3's, goddess? Methinks yes. Quote
cj001f Posted February 10, 2004 Posted February 10, 2004 Is there a reason you can't get G3's, goddess? Methinks yes. Because the glue sucked the first year, everyone returned them, G3 had didn't have enough to replace them? Â The only thing that sucks about the BD Glidelite's is they only come with a dinky velcro strap, and not a skin bag. Quote
cracked Posted February 10, 2004 Posted February 10, 2004 Ascension Rat tail is what I've got on my Miras. I just loop the elastic around my Fritschi heel pieces. Quote
thelawgoddess Posted February 10, 2004 Posted February 10, 2004 i think cj's got it. every time i've checked they didn't have them in stock and they wouldn't let me backorder. gotta go to the source for the pro deals ... Quote
mounthay Posted February 11, 2004 Posted February 11, 2004 I've used 85mm Ascension skins w/o the clip fix for 3 years and think they are fine w/o any clip fix mechanism. what is the use of the clip fix anyway? The only time my skins ever have fallen off was after 100 days of touring and hip deep cascade sludge in early november. go simple. If they're falling off, reglue or rebuy new ones, the clip fix alone won't save the life of skins with no adhesive. In addition these skins do not flap uncontrollably in windy conditions or slide backward in steep spring conditions. Mountaingear.com had these on sale last catalogue I saw. I have heard no complaints about the new G3 however, if you can get a good deal on them go for it. I have witnessed firsthand a user of the BCA sliding backward on moderately steep skin tracks. I don't know how old these were though. Quote
climberchris01 Posted February 11, 2004 Posted February 11, 2004 I've got the ascension clipfix and it can be a pain to adjust them to different skis especially if you're doing it at the hill in 10 degree blowing snow as experienced over new years. But they are good and i havn't had any problems with them staying fastened to my sumos(non twin-tip). But my pocket rockets, didn't like them as much since they have an edge that is dragged across the metal fix. I had G3's at first but the glue was awful, returned them for ascension. Then my ascension went bad and the glue was ripping off, and now I'm on a good pair. My ex girlfriend has the glidelight, and they work pretty well, the glue is too sticky though and hard to pull apart. At least on hers which are on their second season. I know that the manufacturors are constantly changing the glue process to make it the best, so bare with it. Quote
thelawgoddess Posted February 12, 2004 Posted February 12, 2004 the clipfix work fine on my twins. Quote
ridehikeclimbski Posted February 14, 2004 Posted February 14, 2004 Got a new pair of Teledaddies, wondering which toe loop is wide enuf for those skis. I plan on getting the 110 mm STS Glidelites, just want to be sure of the fit. Thanks for your input. Quote
cracked Posted February 14, 2004 Posted February 14, 2004 Ask Allyoucaneat, he's skiing the sugar daddies. Quote
thelawgoddess Posted February 15, 2004 Posted February 15, 2004 i think the biggest sts tip loop is 83mm and the tele daddy tips are a whopping 126mm ... so you're probably going to have to make your own. Quote
catbirdseat Posted February 16, 2004 Posted February 16, 2004 Numb nuts here forgot his skins today on a trip to Yodelin. The day was salvaged when his partner pulled out some sticky kicker wax. It was still hard work getting up the hill and required quite a bit of herring boning and side stepping. The snow was pretty good up top and I had a good time. Quote
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