Lambone Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 Whats the best ice pack that does not have tool tubes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobo Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 Bent shafts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodchester Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 Some of the TNF packs have a version of "tool tubes" that aren't actually a "tube" of material, but a ring at the top and bottom (with the same quick release. This allows you to slide in any tool, bent, straight, or whatever. I have an older version and love it. I don't know the names of the packs now-a-days. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_harpell Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 make your own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambone Posted November 19, 2003 Author Share Posted November 19, 2003 Yeah, Vipers with Fangs...don't fit, bummer cause I like my Ice Sac. Won't consider North Face...not that they arn't good, just have personal issues with that company. And i won't make my own, because I are so suck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdietsch Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 CCW Chernobyl - call/email them and tell them you want the old style tools loops ... no problem Cold Cold World custom orders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 So basically, any old pack with ice axe loops? Any particular size you are looking for? Here are a couple I like- Arcteryx Khamsin 38 - carries great, bungy crampon attachment with patch. BD Zippo Pack 27 - drop in crampon pouch, nice and compact for climbing in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin_B Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 wdietsch said: CCW Chernobyl - call/email them and tell them you want the old style tools loops ... no problem Cold Cold World custom orders I second the CCW packs. I have the valdez and it rocks. They do free custom mods so you could order the Chernobyl (which comes with tubes) and have them use the attachment system of the valdez (straps). Awesome stuff. Take advantage of the free custom mods and 'design' your own pack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daler Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 Matt, The viper with fangs will fit in the BD Ice packs. I have a pair and have been using them with my BD packs. Dale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromage Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 Lowe Alpine is making some slick midsized, midpriced packs these days. No, they aren't Archaeopteryx quality, but they are light, they have cool features, and they are relatively cheap. Check out the Alpine Attack 40/50- gear loops on waistbelt, removable bivy pad, 1.9kg The Ice Fang has a simple kind of panel attachment system on the back that allows the secure attachment of any kind of ice tool. Plus it's about $100 less than a Nozone. Ice Fang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin_B Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 Also, if you want a quick release type thing to remove your tool while your pack is still on your back, you can put a clip in the straps (where the ice axe head rests) that come on most packs, and this makes for a quick release system. Haven't done it myself but a friend's mountainsmith pack has this (no tool tubes) and he can remove a second tool with the pack still on his back. pretty cool. This wouldn't work to well though if the handle is much bigger than the shaft (or has a pinky fuck thing). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobo Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 Dustin_B said: Also, if you want a quick release type thing to remove your tool while your pack is still on your back, you can put a clip in the straps (where the ice axe head rests) that come on most packs, and this makes for a quick release system. Haven't done it myself but a friend's mountainsmith pack has this (no tool tubes) and he can remove a second tool with the pack still on his back. pretty cool. This wouldn't work to well though if the handle is much bigger than the shaft (or has a pinky fuck thing). The Osprey Finnesse with the Vetor Ice (interchangeable) attachment panel does this as well. The tubes are more set up for straight-shafted tools, tho. I got ss tools, and it's worked great in the past when I've started a route with one tool, then needed the second while on route. I've even got to teh point where I can put 'em back w/o taking the pack off. Yeah, I am lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodchester Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 I'll second the Lowe packs. I also have an Alpine Attack 50 and really like it...though I'd love it if it had the same tool system as my TNF pack. But be advised it now has a light frame...great for humping moderate alpine loads and occasionally heavier loads. But if you want an old fashioned rucksack, its not your pack. Alpine Attck 50 Also check out the South Peak for a smaller pack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin_B Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 sobo said: Yeah, I am lazy. Not laziness, not having to remove your pack to extract your second tool boils down to speed, efficiency, and safety. But what the hell do I know, I'm a newbie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobo Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 Dustin_B said: sobo said: Yeah, I am lazy. Not laziness, not having to remove your pack to extract your second tool boils down to speed, efficiency, and safety. But what the hell do I know, I'm a newbie. I agree with speed, etc. for extraction. Re: my laziness, I was referring to putting the tools away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lummox Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 Lambone said: Whats the best ice pack that does not have tool tubes? wear em on your harness or put em in your hands. cold cold world. arteryx. et al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Led_Hed Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 Got an Arc'Teryx Khamsin 38. Love it. Removable hip belt (great for sliming down for long steep day routes), removable frame sheet (though it provides tons of comfort on approaches), easy to attach crampons, hydration system compatible, excellent fit, awesome materials, awesome build, no bullshit, reasonably priced (buy it at mec in canada). If only mine were'nt munched by alpine rodents of unusual size in the Bugaboos. I like the idea above re: modifying one of the lower loops so it will quick release. If this is done instead of tool toobs some weight is saved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracked Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 Keep the ice sac, slice the tool tubes off, and sew a few straps on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceIceBaby Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 Nozone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastBastard Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Serratus Icefall www.serratus.ca Great pack, light , bomber, cheap. not tool tubes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearup5000 Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 Second the nozone - and I have one occasionally on ebay for 100 USD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambone Posted December 10, 2003 Author Share Posted December 10, 2003 turns out the BD vipers fit just fine into the WildThings Ice Sac tool tubes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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