chucK Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 For me there is definitely an hour or two where it is a real struggle to keep awake (2-4am, and 3pm) for me. I think that varies by person. Then, like you said, you're good to go again afterwards for hours. I think the accidents between midnight and 2am stat might have more to do with bar closing times than peoples' biological clocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Matt: Don't you mean Mr. Petit Dru/Ms. Petite Dru the choice is yours Y'all just wish you could spray as much as me. JEALOUS!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenfork Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 By the way, it's sleep deprivation, not depravation. Think deprived, not depraved. Sleep depravation is something else altogether! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 quote: Originally posted by greenfork: By the way, it's sleep deprivation, not depravation. Think deprived, not depraved. Sleep depravation is something else altogether! Sleep depravation causes nocturnal emissions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregm Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Aquaman: yadda yadda Nobody fucks with Aquaman! yadda yadda isn't that special. sounds like somebody might be a little sleep deprived... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Country_Jake Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 Any ways... If you take it from me I think old Muhammad should eat a hand full of mushrooms and go for it all the way... ...at least you wont know your missing sleep that way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 Yeah, you guys just KEEP on talking shit. Next time the Riddler and the Heat Miser start fucking with you, WHO do you think will be there to save you? After all I do for humanity and this is my appreciation! Oh, and Mr. CUNT-ry Jake: I've got something for you- a big bucket of seaweed to dump over your head. It's amazing what rumours get spread by people who indulge in kiddie porn. As for that tramp Lois, well, Superman gave her the boot long ago and she's had it in for all of us superheros ever since especially after she tried to curry favor with the Hulk, and in turn he gave her the ol' Fuck-n-Chuck, you know, the Romp-n-Stomp. She has no respect from us! What's that? Somebody needs me? BAH! i'm going back home. <glub glub glub> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Country_Jake Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 Did you just have to leave because your out back f*%#@ing a goat, or does Aquaman prefer the SMALLmouth bass... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allison Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllYouCanEat Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 I've learned that the most important thing to prepare for in a long climb/single push is to know the facts. How much altitude gain, how far, where you are going, etc. I know this sounds logical, but often when it comes to long pushes, you do them because you only have so much time, be it because your weather window is small or you are a weekend warrior. Sometimes the details are left to fate. Also, bring a lot of food. Oftentimes eating is all you have to look forward too. It helps make the pain to fun ratio more palpable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 quote: Originally posted by allison: allison read spray!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David_Parker Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 I think there is a big difference between planned sleep deprivation and forced sleep deprivation. Having done the latter will help you prepare for the former. If you haven't done it, then you don't really know how you will handle it. Therefore I'd encourage you to work up to it. My serious sleep deprivation came unexpectedly and I was therefore forced to "dig deep" to keep going. But having done it now, I have confidence I can do it again, willingly or not. I'm a huge advocate of power naps. 20 minutes of sleep does amazing things and imo way more effective than drinking coffee. Susan Bucher of Iditerod fame refused to drink coffee, claiming the ups caused severe lows and she prefered to be on a more even keel the whole way. Still, I don't think personally I'd leave the coffee at home on purpose. If you think it helps, it probably does. If planning a trip where you purposely deprive yourself of sleep, I think you need to be careful about where you will be when you hit the 20-24 hour mark. I wouldn't suggest being on the crux or in a dangerous situation. Many "accidents" that result in death or serious injury have been more of a calvacade of small errors, not one big one. There is no doubt sleep deprivation affects clear thinking and physical performance. I think it would be prudent to try it on for size before wearing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 quote: Originally posted by David Parker: Many "accidents" that result in death or serious injury have been more of a calvacade of small errors, not one big one. David, that's about as right on as it gets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muhammad_Ali Posted March 22, 2002 Author Share Posted March 22, 2002 quote: Uh - I don't mean to be rude, but I'm going to be, you don't have much experience with sleep deprivation anywhere do you? Get some experience first. Carlyboy,Who the hell are you copping such an attitude and how many hours sleep did you need to discern what the hell my experiences are? In fact, I've spent 24+ hrs out on climbs a few times. I haven't found the lack of sleep as debilitating as you apparently have - but then you seem to be playing with less than a full deck to begin with. Dru,Pushing on alpine climbing mostly snow and ice. Also on alpine rock - nothing super hard and not on big walls. Mr. Ali Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craftmatic Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 Not to brag, but I have found myself to be able to stay awake for up to five, even six hours in a row at work. No Gu necessary. I find that this sort of extreme mental fortitude serves me well in the hills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 oh yeah? well I can hold my breath underwater for days at a time...actually, I can breathe underwater, so top THAT, sucker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 quote: Originally posted by chucK: For me there is definitely an hour or two where it is a real struggle to keep awake (2-4am, and 3pm) for me. I think that varies by person. Then, like you said, you're good to go again afterwards for hours. This is similar for me, and others - I believe it has to do more with the general lack of stimuli (it's dark, most people are in bed, I'm forced to focus on the task at hand). For coffee - I don't find that hot liquids put me too sleep - just caffiene after some point of sleep deprivation. My body doesn't like to eat after awhile without sleep either. Even Gu Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 Not to brag, but I have found myself to be able to stay awake for up to five, even six hours in a row at work. No Gu necessary. I find that this sort of extreme mental fortitude serves me well in the hills. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Posts: 1 | From: Seattle | Registered: Mar 2002 | IP: Logged Aquaman On Belay Member # 1833 posted 03-21-2002 12:12 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------oh yeah? well I can hold my breath underwater for days at a time...actually, I can breathe underwater, so top THAT, sucker. For two recent avatars you guys sure have smart mouths. dpont you know you are supposed to accumulate 10 posts in stealth mode and become rope leads before you start spraying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craftmatic Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 For two recent avatars you guys sure have smart mouths. dpont you know you are supposed to accumulate 10 posts in stealth mode and become rope leads before you start spraying __________________________________________________ I passed my basic spray course with the Mountaineers. I've logged lots of great posts on their bulletin board seeking scrambling advice. I've heard that this qualifies me at the instructor level no matter my inexperience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 Oh yeah? Well just how long do I have to be here to be a fricking "rope lead"? This is b.s.! I'm not "on belay"! I don't rely on NO ONE! I'm a superhero! Where I come from, people rely on ME, they look up to me and all the other superheros. Except that prick Spiderman who isn't around enough to help us fight bad guys. Nobody fucks with Aquaman! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Aquaman: Oh yeah? Well just how long do I have to be here to be a fricking "rope lead"?This is b.s.! I'm not "on belay"! I don't rely on NO ONE! I'm a superhero! Where I come from, people rely on ME, they look up to me and all the other superheros. Except that prick Spiderman who isn't around enough to help us fight bad guys.Nobody fucks with Aquaman! dude, Aquaman and Spideman are Dc and Marvel, they dont exist in the same universe any more than MS and Apple do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 DETAILS! is that all you care about Mr. PETITE Dru? If you believe either of us exists, then we both exist, pal. ONE WORLD! We had a merger of universes in case you weren't up on current events. I'd come over and bitch slap you but I've got crime to fight. I'll have to send Superman instead...if he can get his fat ass off Wonder Woman long enough to do something useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Country_Jake Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 Dude wasn't Aquaman the guy who wasa acussed of being homosexual... yah thats right he was... he refused to admit it, but later Lowis Lane dug up some incriminating evidence that proved he took it in the ass by the Incredible Hulk... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothrop Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 Wow! Look at Dru have a spray contest with his own avatars! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Aquaman: DETAILS! is that all you care about Mr. PETITE Dru? Don't you mean Mr. Petit Dru/Ms. Petite Dru the choice is yours Un homme tres petit, mais qui n'est pas nain. [ 03-21-2002: Message edited by: Matt ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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