Dustin_B Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 (edited) Alpinfox said: scot'teryx said: Ursa, I think a lot of people here who are laughing at these pictures have taught total newbies how to climb. I really enjoy taking newbies out into the mountains and seeing them learn and enjoy climbing. I think its great that the chubby guy is out in the woods and not sitting on the couch, but the activities shown in these pictures are pretty silly. To me they demonstrate that the Mountaineers (and similar groups) are often more about subjecting people to meaningless, humiliatingly simple rites-of-passage rather than teaching climbing skills the way a friend would for example. Newbies Climbing clubs Uhm y'all are forgetting that this these aren't pictures from a 'climbing' course; this is a scrambling course, which I guess is like hiking to most of you. The climbing course covers more advanced skills like free soloing trails and aiding trails. I am getting a lot of laughs from the picture though. (and I hate rappelling too) he, he. Edited September 5, 2003 by Dustin_B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babnik Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 greenfork said: you can see where the rock has been scraped smooth on this slab problem, from over-use. that makes it harder. but it's ok, looks like they have a small crash pad. i cant get over the spotting technique of that brillo pad. no worries brah! i totally gotcha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphinx Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 So the rabbit comes out of the hole, around the tree, then back through the hole. And that's how you make a figure-8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphinx Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 catbirdseat said: Sphinx, you are such a sporto. Alpine climbers don't get three nice big bolts from which to rappel. They have to trust some rock or manky tree they can't possibly know is 100% safe, unless it is on a very popular route (where it's still not 100% safe). The sane and the rational have reason to be concerned. Downclimbing is often the preferred alternative. By the way, the "rappel" in the photo is just an arm rappel or a hand line used only for low angle descents in mossy or wet gullies. The scramblers don't call themselves climbers and never do vertical rappels. And you'd know being such an experiences alpinist. If they aren't rappelling, then why is the one dude giving a fireman's belay? You sound like a Mounties textbook. Besides, Minx said explicitly that she was worried on the Monkey Face rappel. I know there are lots of dead trees and sketch rock horns that you have to rappel off of on that route, but still. Scrambling doesn't involve ropework. Anyone who needs a rope to get down a 20 degree forest floor is a gumby with low IQ, no two ways about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babnik Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 Sphinx said: catbirdseat said: Sphinx, you are such a sporto. Alpine climbers don't get three nice big bolts from which to rappel. They have to trust some rock or manky tree they can't possibly know is 100% safe, unless it is on a very popular route (where it's still not 100% safe). The sane and the rational have reason to be concerned. Downclimbing is often the preferred alternative. By the way, the "rappel" in the photo is just an arm rappel or a hand line used only for low angle descents in mossy or wet gullies. The scramblers don't call themselves climbers and never do vertical rappels. And you'd know being such an experiences alpinist. If they aren't rappelling, then why is the one dude giving a fireman's belay? You sound like a Mounties textbook. Besides, Minx said explicitly that she was worried on the Monkey Face rappel. I know there are lots of dead trees and sketch rock horns that you have to rappel off of on that route, but still. Scrambling doesn't involve ropework. Anyone who needs a rope to get down a 20 degree forest floor is a gumby with low IQ, no two ways about it. dru dat. shoulda stuck to bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronomicon Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 Look at how dirty his socks are going to get! And the instructor isn't wearing gaitors either!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphinx Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 Necronomicon said: Look at how dirty his socks are going to get! And the instructor isn't wearing gaitors either!!! They should be kicked out immediately! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronomicon Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 Seriously, though, this shit is fucking pathetic. All of you apologists, with your "Come on guys, it's OK. Everyone has to start out somewhere" attitudes are closet mounties, with your shorts on over your polypro. These people are losers, and the instructors pretending to pass on their "knowledge" are even worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fejas Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 I'm not sane or rational... I prefer the slide on my ass technique for descending wet gullies... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 pants over gaiters works well when bushwacking wet snow-covered rhododendrons and stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 Fuck, it's amazing how loud the mailbox is when the postman drops the mail in there. Like he's trying to knock it off the wall or some shit ... waitasec, what were you guys talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babnik Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 Necronomicon said: Seriously, though, this shit is fucking pathetic. All of you apologists, with your "Come on guys, it's OK. Everyone has to start out somewhere" attitudes are closet mounties, with your shorts on over your polypro. These people are losers, and the instructors pretending to pass on their "knowledge" are even worse. yeah the 'instructors' prolly graduated the weekend before from the same class! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa_Eagle Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 sometimes I wear gaiters when I don't need them because the stupid clip is so much of a hassle to get on and off my laces I just leave them on my boots. They've since changed the clip design, but these still work fine (minus the clip issue), so I haven't gotten new ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronomicon Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 Ursa_Eagle said: sometimes I wear gaiters when I don't need them because the stupid clip is so much of a hassle to get on and off my laces I just leave them on my boots. They've since changed the clip design, but these still work fine (minus the clip issue), so I haven't gotten new ones. MOUNTIE! DIRTY MOUNTIE!!! I've seen you and your staggering ilk, crushed under bizzarely huge packs, exhausted, soaked to the bone from sweating all day under your Penta-ply goretex, and, most offensively, with your gaiters tangled uselessly around your ankles, sideways, tripping over your broken home-made stirrups, covered in pine needles. YOU SUCK!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa_Eagle Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 uhhh, wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 i have worn gaiters when bushwacking to keep the duff outta my boots. if only they made a body gaitor to keep conifer needles from filtering down between pack and body Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronomicon Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 Here's Ursula_Needledick with the rest of his apologist companions, five petite Napoleans, and thirty losers so pathetic that Gumby would slash his own green wrists and spill out his own green blood if he knew how his good name was being maligned, enjoying a quiet day of solitude at a low angled heap of mung unworthy of remaining a natural area. Can you spot them all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpinfox Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 Dustin_B said: Uhm y'all are forgetting that this these aren't pictures from a 'climbing' course; this is a scrambling course The mountainears teach a "scrambling" course??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 since when do you have to take a course to learn how to scramble? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 Eh? "Scrambling," you say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babnik Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 Dru said: since when do you have to take a course to learn how to scramble? no shit i started that when i was a wee lad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucK Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 Necronomicon said: Ursa_Eagle said: sometimes I wear gaiters when I don't need them because the stupid clip is so much of a hassle to get on and off my laces I just leave them on my boots. They've since changed the clip design, but these still work fine (minus the clip issue), so I haven't gotten new ones. MOUNTIE! DIRTY MOUNTIE!!! I've seen you and your staggering ilk, crushed under bizzarely huge packs, exhausted, soaked to the bone from sweating all day under your Penta-ply goretex, and, most offensively, with your gaiters tangled uselessly around your ankles, sideways, tripping over your broken home-made stirrups, covered in pine needles. YOU SUCK!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 he's so MONEY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-rock Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 Nice dirt-lip, Necro. It's so white-trash chic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronomicon Posted September 5, 2003 Share Posted September 5, 2003 iain said: he's so MONEY Yeah, dog!! G-Money! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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