Necronomicon Posted September 3, 2003 Posted September 3, 2003 If you can scream for help all day long, and no one hears you, you know you're alpine climbing. Quote
Dru Posted September 3, 2003 Posted September 3, 2003 If you continuously fail on alpine climbs, you might be Layton or Necro  (If you continuously fail on boulder problems you might be Dru ) Quote
Necronomicon Posted September 3, 2003 Author Posted September 3, 2003 I wouldn't say continuosly. That's a pretty harsh assessment. Â If you're doing FAs of low angle rotten choss heaps, you know you're alpine climbing with Dru. Quote
Bug Posted September 3, 2003 Posted September 3, 2003 This thread desinigrated quickly. Â Â If your lichen encrusted face is starting to feel windburned, your water ran out hours ago, you have lost track of how many pitches and how far you have simo-climbed, and you meet someone from this board............. Quote
David_Parker Posted September 3, 2003 Posted September 3, 2003 you have ice axe and crampons and a 8.5 mil rope Quote
Sphinx Posted September 3, 2003 Posted September 3, 2003 Bug said: This thread desinigrated quickly. Â Â If your lichen encrusted face is starting to feel windburned, your water ran out hours ago, you have lost track of how many pitches and how far you have simo-climbed, and you meet someone from this board............. then you're trying to get to Pube Club. Quote
Attitude Posted September 3, 2003 Posted September 3, 2003 Cragging has route descriptions that match features you can actually identify. Â Alpine climbing involves a lot of WTF??? navigation. Quote
Ursa_Eagle Posted September 3, 2003 Posted September 3, 2003 more specifically (on that note) if you're looking for the "obvious gulley", you're alpine climbing... Quote
catbirdseat Posted September 3, 2003 Posted September 3, 2003 Alpine = "adventure" Â I rather like Necro's definition , but rephrased. Â "In Alpine, no one can hear you scream". Quote
Dru Posted September 3, 2003 Posted September 3, 2003 there are a lot of adventure cragging routes in the more brushy parts of Squamish Chief etc..... Fern's sent most of em.... Quote
dryad Posted September 3, 2003 Posted September 3, 2003 So does this make Rainier a crag? Lots of people there to hear you scream. Oh wait, Rainier is a hike, nevermind. Quote
chucK Posted September 3, 2003 Posted September 3, 2003 The Urioste guide (Red Rocks) describes the Frigid Aire Buttress route as having an Alpine Feel. Perhaps in his mind it means discontinuous climbing (steep parts then less steep bushy parts)? Â Is Crap Crags that huge chimney system that you walk over right at the end (right side) of the Bellygood traverse? That looks Alpine . Has Fern (or anybody reading this) done that one? Looks adventurous! Â Quote
Ursa_Eagle Posted September 3, 2003 Posted September 3, 2003 dryad said: So does this make Rainier a crag? Lots of people there to hear you scream. Oh wait, Rainier is a hike, nevermind. Quote
babnik Posted September 3, 2003 Posted September 3, 2003 dryad said: So does this make Rainier a crag? Lots of people there to hear you scream. Oh wait, Rainier is a hike, nevermind. Â most o' them boys can go hit up the mowitch or something similar and call me mid route and tell me its not technical or climbing. Quote
Dru Posted September 3, 2003 Posted September 3, 2003 On Everest, all the other gapers on the summit could hear you scream.... if you only took your stupid oxygen mask off... and if that damn Toyota wasn't revving its motor.... Quote
fern Posted September 3, 2003 Posted September 3, 2003 chucK said: Is Crap Crags that huge chimney system that you walk over right at the end (right side) of the Bellygood traverse? That looks Alpine . Has Fern (or anybody reading this) done that one? Looks adventurous! Â the top part of Crap Crags is right at the end of Bellygood and it is super loose. There are other chimney tops along the rim there too, eg Clean Corner. Â I have climbed Crap Crags and I would do it again, it has some quality monkeying. It is not very alpine though, don't you have to be above treeline for it to be 'alpine'?... it's just bushy and loose. Andy Cairns has done it too. Quote
Ursa_Eagle Posted September 3, 2003 Posted September 3, 2003 although isn't Alpine climbing really only done in Europe?? Quote
Dru Posted September 3, 2003 Posted September 3, 2003 Pup Buttress is not above treeline but it's pretty alpine. Ditto Index pks I bet. Quote
babnik Posted September 3, 2003 Posted September 3, 2003 Ursa_Eagle said: although isn't Alpine climbing really only done in Europe?? Â is there such thing anymore? i think it is all via ferrata now. Quote
Dru Posted September 3, 2003 Posted September 3, 2003 Ursa_Eagle said: although isn't Alpine climbing really only done in Europe?? Â Japanese Alps.... Southern Alps in New Zealand..... Conrad Kain called the Rocky + Columbia Mts the Canadian Alps.... Â there is also a range of mountains on the Moon named the Alps. Lots of FA potential I bet. Oxygenless would be tough. Quote
murraysovereign Posted September 3, 2003 Posted September 3, 2003 Dru said: there is also a range of mountains on the Moon named the Alps. Lots of FA potential I bet. Oxygenless would be tough. Â Yeah, but with so little gravity, you can probably dyno to the summit, then do huge leaps from peak to peak...bag the whole chain in, like, 20 minutes. Quote
TimL Posted September 3, 2003 Posted September 3, 2003 I think there is a big difference between mountaineering and alpine climbing but a lot of people mix them into one type of climb. It would be like mixing sport and trad climbing together in one generic rock climibng category. For instance, to me it seems most routes on Rainier are not alpine routes, they are mountaineering routes............. Quote
Cpt.Caveman Posted September 3, 2003 Posted September 3, 2003 Tim I think you are confusing mountaineering with hill walkers alps. Quote
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