allthumbs Posted August 19, 2003 Share Posted August 19, 2003 300,000 M-14s destined for trash pile- Petition calls on Congress instead to sell guns to help pay for Iraq war Posted: June 15, 2003 1:00 a.m. Eastern © 2003 WorldNetDaily.com A petition drive is underway to convince lawmakers to "civilianize" hundreds of thousands of M-14 military battle rifles so they can be legally sold by the government to the general public as a way to pay for the Iraq war. According to the online petition, "there is a strong demand for an M-14 DCM [Director of Civilian Marksmanship] program, which will curb government waste by providing up to $300-600 million [for] deficit reduction." "With uncertainty of the price tag of the current war, this will help pay for freedoms we enjoy in this country," says the petition. "With the looming war deficit, our government should not throw away hundreds of millions of dollars by destroying M-14 rifles – some of which are brand new." The petition, which is being spearheaded by Robert A. Yoder, says as many as 300,000 rifles could wind up in the scrap heap without the government getting any return on its investment. The DCM program to save the M-14s could work like a similar program involving another venerable military workhorse, the M-1 (Garand) and M-1 carbine series of military rifles. The DCM sold those through the Civilian Marksmanship Program, a course that promotes firearms safety training and rifle practice for all qualified U.S. citizens with special emphasis on youth. The Civilian Marksmanship Program also offers for sale AR-15-type match rifles, M1917 Enfields, M1903 bolt-action rifles (a former U.S. military weapon) and .22-caliber target rifles at subsidized rates. "The U.S. Rifle, 7.62 mm, M-14 was the first rifle the U. S. fielded that improved upon the highly regarded U. S. Rifle, Caliber.30, M1 (Garand) and attempted to give U. S. Forces a NATO-standardized weapon," says the online petition. "The M-14 came into active service around 1957 and remained the standard infantry weapon until the official adoption of the M-16 rifle in the late 1960s. "Like its predecessor, the M-14 is now relegated to ship's arms rooms, ROTC detachments, storage bins in government arsenals and, of late, the demilitarized scrap pile," says the petition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik Posted August 19, 2003 Share Posted August 19, 2003 whoever thought this up is a real moron! sell guns to pay for missles? i think we just need to nuke the whole world. all problems solved! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegetablebelay Posted August 19, 2003 Share Posted August 19, 2003 I'll take two! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted August 19, 2003 Author Share Posted August 19, 2003 Great guns. I think I'll take two also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalhead_Mojo Posted August 19, 2003 Share Posted August 19, 2003 trask said: Petition calls on Congress to sell guns at last, someone finally understands the true meaning of "homeland security"!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lummox Posted August 19, 2003 Share Posted August 19, 2003 i think they would sell for top dollar in afghanistan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted August 19, 2003 Author Share Posted August 19, 2003 Those ragheads couldn't afford 'em. They're better off with the Chicom AK47s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted August 19, 2003 Share Posted August 19, 2003 Too big & heavy. The 7.62x54mm (aka .308) cartridge belongs in a bolt action hunting or med range sniper rifle IMHO. The Ruger mini14 is still the best civilian semi-auto. Nontheless, I'd buy one of these surplus rifles just to help finance the war on terrorism. Maybe use my tax reduction rebate check that presently remains uncashed in a desk drawer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lummox Posted August 19, 2003 Share Posted August 19, 2003 trask said: Those ragheads couldn't afford 'em. guess you dont know much about opium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fence_Sitter Posted August 19, 2003 Share Posted August 19, 2003 Fairweather said: Too big & heavy. The 7.62x54mm (aka .308) cartridge belongs in a bolt action hunting or med range sniper rifle IMHO. The Ruger mini14 is still the best civilian semi-auto. Nontheless, I'd buy one of these surplus rifles just to help finance the war on terrorism. Maybe use my tax ruduction rebate check that presently remains uncashed in a desk drawer! sumbitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphinx Posted August 19, 2003 Share Posted August 19, 2003 Fairweather said: Too big & heavy. The 7.62x54mm (aka .308) cartridge belongs in a bolt action hunting or med range sniper rifle IMHO. The Ruger mini14 is still the best civilian semi-auto. Nontheless, I'd buy one of these surplus rifles just to help finance the war on terrorism. Maybe use my tax ruduction rebate check that presently remains uncashed in a desk drawer! Ahhhhhh....the .308. Let's compromise. Carry a bolt-action, long barrel, high-power scope mounted .308 for snipery stuff, and a lighter-powered assault rife for when you need fast action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbw1966 Posted August 19, 2003 Share Posted August 19, 2003 Fairweather said: Too big & heavy. The 7.62x54mm (aka .308) cartridge belongs in a bolt action hunting or med range sniper rifle IMHO. The Ruger mini14 is still the best civilian semi-auto. The M14 carbine is (or at least was at the time I was in) used as a sniper rifle in the Army. For home protection I agree that the M14 is way too big and bulky. Pump action 12 gauge shotgun with a pistol grip is where its at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphinx Posted August 19, 2003 Share Posted August 19, 2003 What do SWAT teams use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted August 19, 2003 Author Share Posted August 19, 2003 SWAT uses a myriad of weapons - depends on the situation. Do a Google search if really interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lummox Posted August 19, 2003 Share Posted August 19, 2003 Sphinx said: What do SWAT teams use? mossberg makes a bunch of shotguns for em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbw1966 Posted August 19, 2003 Share Posted August 19, 2003 Remington 870 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dru Posted August 19, 2003 Share Posted August 19, 2003 wasnt there a no-hit wonder metal band called weapon of choice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon Posted August 19, 2003 Share Posted August 19, 2003 There was that Fatboy Slim song and in the video they had Christopher Walken dancing around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted August 19, 2003 Share Posted August 19, 2003 This week.... After the Monster Truck Show Stick around WEAPON OF CHOICE will be opening for LIMOZEEN!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted August 19, 2003 Share Posted August 19, 2003 one can only imagine the upcoming sea of mullets to be witnessed when Def Leppard takes the stage at the Clark County Ampitheatre later this year. I intend to take a bag of sugar and throw it at the stage when the song comes up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk Posted August 19, 2003 Share Posted August 19, 2003 iain said: one can only imagine the upcoming sea of mullets to be witnessed when Def Leppard takes the stage at the Clark County Ampitheatre later this year. I intend to take a bag of sugar and throw it at the stage when the song comes up. ha ha ha verry funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lI1|1! Posted August 20, 2003 Share Posted August 20, 2003 (edited) Dru said:wasnt there a no-hit wonder metal band called weapon of choice? jon said: There was that Fatboy Slim song and in the video they had Christopher Walken dancing around. if anyone can explain the logical leap between these two posts i'd love to read it. my theories so far: 1) jon is on crack 2) something about music, so like dru mentions a band he thought was silly, and in that same sort of vane jon mentions a video he thought was silly or something. it's not a big thing i guess, just when you see something that's out of place and can't figure out why... edit: i've gone back and re-read the original posts. maybe the fat boy slim song is named "weapon of choice". i've seen that video but don't remember the name of the song so it never occured to me. Edited August 20, 2003 by lI1|1! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon Posted August 20, 2003 Share Posted August 20, 2003 The name of the Fatboy Slim song was Weapon of Choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lI1|1! Posted August 20, 2003 Share Posted August 20, 2003 Muffy_The_Wanker_Sprayer said: iain said: one can only imagine the upcoming sea of mullets to be witnessed when Def Leppard takes the stage at the Clark County Ampitheatre later this year. I intend to take a bag of sugar and throw it at the stage when the song comes up. ha ha ha verry funny hey muffy i think you look great in a mullet ok! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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