jon Posted February 7, 2002 Share Posted February 7, 2002 Props to Dr. E for calling out R&I on the increasing amount of advertising and decrease in actual reading. I understand advertising is how they make their money and keep subscription costs down, but seriously, some of these ads are worthless. I usually don't off like this but really, where shall I begin. Open up the front and your greeted a two page Pusher spread of Dave Grahams's hands covered with chalk, but uh oh, he's got a little cut on his finger. Man he must have done some crazy ass V420 or something to get that. What's pushing me Dave? Dave you little bitch stop crying about you finger and get two 4 inch stainless steel plates and 14 screws put in your arm and give me a call. I bang myself up more at the gym in the night, suck it up. Umm ba by. Next page. Mammut. Dude. I love you stuff, but do you honestly think some kid with red eyes and a pierced nose is going to sell me a fucking rope? Oh god it's a Nissan ad, trying to sell me a Xterra so I can look like every other trust fund kiddy out there. Homey you wouldn't be so banged up if you didn't fall off you bike so much. Oh yeah soft tails suck get a real bike I'm done ranting for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambone Posted February 7, 2002 Share Posted February 7, 2002 No shit R+I sucks. And whats up with the whole facial add campaign....I dont wanna by some NoFace peace of crap because Lynn Hill or Bet Rodden uses it. If they were to show me some sweet pictures of cool routes then I'd be impressed. Climbing isn't much better, but I like their topic selection and writting compared to R + I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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erik Posted February 7, 2002 Share Posted February 7, 2002 you know the thing that gets me about these rags is the lack of photo galleries.....what the fuck!!!!!! i always thought those were the best part of the rags and now if there are two pics it is a miracle...... i say we blow them up!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialed Posted February 7, 2002 Share Posted February 7, 2002 quote: Originally posted by erik:[QB]you know the thing that gets me about these rags is the lack of photo galleries.....QB] and if there is anything in the gallery its boring pics of pouty hairless Frenchies pullin down on euro lime stone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted February 7, 2002 Share Posted February 7, 2002 you know something... i just noticed this last night... all the other sponsored chix do their photo ops with spaghetti string sport bras and halter tops on... Lynn Hill is always wearing a t shirt. Go Lynn, fight the trend! I got more respect for Lynn Hill now. Also I guess, if you don't got it you don't have to flaunt it. Or maybe TNF just don't make sport bras? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted February 7, 2002 Share Posted February 7, 2002 i liked that Tim Wagner profile... I would rather read that than another feature on Chris Sharma or Tori Allen or Ed Veisturs. then there is Clyde Soles review of boots - "Uh I mostly tested these by walking the dog in em so i will now tell you all about how they climb" - DOH! I HATE CLYDE SOLES! DIE CLYDE DIE!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Caveman Posted February 7, 2002 Share Posted February 7, 2002 Die Clyde Die! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willstrickland Posted February 7, 2002 Share Posted February 7, 2002 I'll jump on the rantwagon. Just browsed the latest issue of climbing in the PDX public library. They have a "best harnesses review". What did I notice? Which companies' gear is covered and which is not. All of them are pretty big advertisers, even the newer companies. What was missing and why am I bitching? Not a single fucking Yates harness in the whole deal. The yates shield harness is one of the best wall/ice/trad harnesses around. Now this was an "all purpose" focused review, but when does all purpose mean mainly sport with some trad? All purpose to me means I can go do a wall in it, climb ice in it the next month, and still climb anything else trad or sport with a very minimal sacrfice in weight. Doing an aid route in most of those reviewed would be akin to self-mutilation. Same deal when reviewing plenty of other things like packs/bags/etc. Yes, Yates, Fish, and other small companies advertise, but not full page, every issue stuff. I won't knock them (the mags) too hard though 'cause you can't really win when you write for an audience like us (climbers), and I try to get stuff published from time to time, so I don't want to burn the bridges etc (call me what you want, but as they say you're part of the problem or part of the solution). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambone Posted February 7, 2002 Share Posted February 7, 2002 Hey will, did you ever see that interview with Tucker Tech when he talks about how he only uses a webbing swami for walls, with no leg loops. He claims that big wall harnesses make you lazy and slow. I guess my point is that everyone has there own opinion of what works and what doesn't. [ 02-07-2002: Message edited by: Lambone ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatar Posted February 7, 2002 Share Posted February 7, 2002 Dru, TNF does make some really cute halter tops. I have a few of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted February 7, 2002 Share Posted February 7, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Avatar: Dru,TNF does make some really cute halter tops. I have a few of them. What model of socks do you use to stuff the cups with to build up your falsies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambone Posted February 7, 2002 Share Posted February 7, 2002 That reminds me... In the new Climbing there is a feature about Dean Potter's ascent of the Nose in 3:59 or some shit. The article says he usd a "ultralight homade webbing harness." But it is pretty obvious in the photos that he is wearing a run of the mill BD harness. I just thought that was kinda funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus_Engley Posted February 7, 2002 Share Posted February 7, 2002 I don't think he and Tim had the photog with him on the record-breaker. Probably ran a lap afterwards to get some pictures... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeclimb9 Posted February 7, 2002 Share Posted February 7, 2002 On the rant wagon . . . I haven't paid for a Climbing of Rock&Ice mag for years because of editorial changes in their formats (and because I've got better things on which to spend my little money). And it's getting worse. It must be a reflection of the current Editors. Case in point: at the Summer Market I saw who's now the current head Editor in an outfit that would embarass a queen in the Tenderloin district. Way homo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialed Posted February 7, 2002 Share Posted February 7, 2002 The writing in Rock & Ice is pretty good, except sometimes they have this guy named Will Strickland or something. He's no good. Like his report on Portland. It was way beat. I've seen some of the letters he's written to them too, he's out there... you can tell he's a reefer addict. Where do they find these people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted February 7, 2002 Share Posted February 7, 2002 DR E Werd is my name as a palindrome! Ray borbon, nob rob yar! is a palindrome of... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambone Posted February 7, 2002 Share Posted February 7, 2002 Anybody remember what Powder magazine was like about ten years ago...seen it lately Far worse than the deterioraton of the climbing mags. Dean and Tim are poseurs. I liked how Tim explained some of the techniques they used in that article, a bit hard to follow, but cool nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Caveman Posted February 7, 2002 Share Posted February 7, 2002 My name is Drew Brayshaw. Please pee in my butt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted February 8, 2002 Share Posted February 8, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: My name is Drew Brayshaw. Please pee in my butt My name is Spray Bonbon and I am a bottom who likes bears as tops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willstrickland Posted February 8, 2002 Share Posted February 8, 2002 quote: Originally posted by freeclimb9: On the rant wagon . . .I haven't paid for a Climbing of Rock&Ice mag for years because of editorial changes in their formats. And it's getting worse. It must be a reflection of the current Editors. Actually, I've found J. Thesenga to be a pretty cool voice in the mags. And I have to say I was a bit suprised and impressed at the "Editoral" or whatever where he addresses Sharma and the world cup herb scandal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblakley Posted February 8, 2002 Share Posted February 8, 2002 Why not write our own rag combining the two topics nearest and dearest to our hearts? We could call it "Vertical and Horizontal Monthly". Jon you up for being editor? Strickland you could write a love column. What do you guys/gals think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willstrickland Posted February 9, 2002 Share Posted February 9, 2002 quote: Originally posted by jblakley: Strickland you could write a love column. What do you guys/gals think? I think the good Reverend D. Wayne Love would be more appropriate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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