wayne Posted April 6, 2003 Posted April 6, 2003 Forget all you know about runners. Rabbit Runners are the shit!! Quote
catbirdseat Posted April 6, 2003 Posted April 6, 2003 Okay, wayne, spill your guts. Tell us all about 'em. They look like short Webolettes. How do you shorten them? Same as for regular slings? Breaking strength is 5,000 lbs or 40 kN. That's pretty strong. According to the lit they are good for slinging icicles, etc, on ice climbs. Are they good for rock climbing? Quote
erik Posted April 6, 2003 Posted April 6, 2003 cbs they are good for any aplication you can think of.. Quote
David_Parker Posted April 7, 2003 Posted April 7, 2003 catbirdseat said: Okay, wayne, spill your guts. Tell us all about 'em. They look like short Webolettes. How do you shorten them? Same as for regular slings? Breaking strength is 5,000 lbs or 40 kN. That's pretty strong. According to the lit they are good for slinging icicles, etc, on ice climbs. Are they good for rock climbing? Rabbit runners rock. My Trangos only have 4 bar tacks (24kn). The metolius have 6 or 8. (stronger) I like them because when Ice climbing, you don't have to pull it over your arm which is attached to your tool unless you are leashless. You just unclip one biner from the other and pull it out. No getting stuck under your hood either. You can shorten them 2 ways. If you do the pass one biner through the other and clip the loops thing, you end up with a fairly long quick draw which is a good length for ice climbing. Or you can do that twice to make it really short. All in all a very light draw with many options. Why carry anything else on an alpine climb? Quote
freeclimb9 Posted April 7, 2003 Posted April 7, 2003 David_Parker said: My Trangos only have 4 bar tacks (24kn). The metolius have 6 or 8. (stronger) Don't assume more bar tacks means a stronger sewn sling. There's a point of diminishing return with bartacking since the stitching process itself weakens the webbing. As far as I know, Bluewater has the strongest sewn slings. They sew with spectra via a process that cools the needle to prevent thread melting. Quote
Geek_the_Greek Posted April 7, 2003 Posted April 7, 2003 Breaking strength is 5,000 lbs or 40 kN 40kN is way more than 5000 pounds. More like 8800 pounds or so (static breaking strength). Quote
specialed Posted April 7, 2003 Posted April 7, 2003 erik said: specialed i bitch more about your scuzzy gear.... omly nice gear you got you stole from me!!! Bootied two neutrinos this weekend at J-Tree!!! Quote
Nick Posted April 8, 2003 Posted April 8, 2003 Rabbit runners are a good replacement for some of the shoulder size runners that you ordinarily carry. When stretched full length (with a biner clipped to each end loop) they give the same extension as a double runner. They weigh about the same as a single length runner and are easy to shorten and carry as described in the above posts. They do not replace the two or more double length runners that most people carry; the double length runners can sling a much bigger horn (though two rabbit runners girth hitched together would sling the same horn, and would be easier to get around a big tree). Quote
mammut_rep Posted April 17, 2003 Posted April 17, 2003 Hey guys. Go to Feathered Friends, Second Ascent, or Marmot and check out the new Mammut Spectra runners. 8mm wide, 22kn breaking strength. SUPER SKINNY AND LIGHT! Quote
pindude Posted April 17, 2003 Posted April 17, 2003 Mammut rep, How about one of the Spokane-CDA stores? How soon? Quote
mammut_rep Posted April 17, 2003 Posted April 17, 2003 Mountain Gear sells them, but if you are thinking of going by the retail store, call first. You might find it easier to order from the catalog and have them shipped to you. Quote
Dustin_B Posted April 17, 2003 Author Posted April 17, 2003 mammut_rep said: Hey guys. Go to Feathered Friends, Second Ascent, or Marmot and check out the new Mammut Spectra runners. 8mm wide, 22kn breaking strength. SUPER SKINNY AND LIGHT! Pro Mountain Sports sells them too!! Quote
Sphinx Posted April 17, 2003 Posted April 17, 2003 HOW ABOUT REI? THEY CARRY SO MUCH AND HAVE GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE. I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN VERY HAPPY WITH THEM. STOP SUPPORTING THE LITTLE SHOPS. Quote
mammut_rep Posted April 18, 2003 Posted April 18, 2003 I forgot about Pro Mountain Sports! They sell them too! Sorry, Jim! Quote
thelawgoddess Posted April 18, 2003 Posted April 18, 2003 freeclimb9 said: I like Bluewater sewn spectra runners (the only company I know of that sews with spectra) i like edelweiss dyneema runners myself. i have a ton of single-length and some doubles but i only carry a few extra from what i think i might need for a climb. Quote
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