Matt Posted October 17, 2001 Posted October 17, 2001 From what I can deduce, sexual chocolate is a man and has a wife, at least according to Matt Anderson. Be a man and stop hiding behind your psudonymn! This goes for all of you gapers and bumblies!
lizard_brain Posted October 17, 2001 Posted October 17, 2001 quote: Originally posted by Matt: Be a man and stop hiding behind your psudonymn! This goes for all of you gapers and bumblies! I would, but I'm afraid that matt would start stalking me.
sexual_chocolate Posted October 17, 2001 Posted October 17, 2001 From what I can deduce, MATT is a stalker and should NOT be given any personal information. At least according to Matt Anderson.... So DRU, near as I can tell, you don't like Jon Krakauer because you perceive him as "egotistical"? So I take it you will not be reading his next book, simply titled: ME.(Jon Krakauer.) "A moving novella, disguised as a tome, about the inner-life of an egotistical climber." By the way, Moondancing IS the glue that holds the universe together. Moondancing is the GUT. Stephen Hawkins, your search has come to an end!
Dan_Harris Posted October 17, 2001 Posted October 17, 2001 All you guys ranting and slamming each other. It took me a long time to read it all and it just keeps coming. Doesn't anyone work out there? Wait, I'm posting too. Never mind.
hollyclimber Posted October 17, 2001 Posted October 17, 2001 I guess I assumed sexual chocolate was a man... I actually think Jon is pretty attractive. I saw him when I was getting ready to climb Bo Derek and he was trying some sick route to the left with 2 buddies. I didn't know it was him when I noticed that he was at a minimum easier on the eyes then his buddies, but after he left my friends filled me in.
allthumbs Posted October 17, 2001 Posted October 17, 2001 I told ya's before that sex. cocoa is probably a tranny or hermephrodite. quote: Originally posted by jblakley: I think this individual is non-gender specific.
allthumbs Posted October 17, 2001 Posted October 17, 2001 Did Bo play "Beck's Bolero" when JK mounted her? quote: Originally posted by hollyclimber: I guess I assumed sexual chocolate was a man... I actually think Jon is pretty attractive. I saw him when I was getting ready to climb Bo Derek and he was trying some sick route to the left with 2 buddies. I didn't know it was him when I noticed that he was at a minimum easier on the eyes then his buddies, but after he left my friends filled me in.
allthumbs Posted October 17, 2001 Posted October 17, 2001 Hey sexy cocoa- Even though you're a oddball headcase, you still write better than dru, who seems to think he's some kind of a high fuckin authority on prose. Go ahead dru, spray me with some of your killer wit, but whydoncha try being a bit less holier than thou; ya might even get an invite to the pub for a change. Spray on genious. quote: Originally posted by sexual chocolate: From what I can deduce, MATT is a stalker and should NOT be given any personal information. At least according to Matt Anderson.... So DRU, near as I can tell, you don't like Jon Krakauer because you perceive him as "egotistical"? So I take it you will not be reading his next book, simply titled: ME.(Jon Krakauer.) "A moving novella, disguised as a tome, about the inner-life of an egotistical climber." By the way, Moondancing IS the glue that holds the universe together. Moondancing is the GUT. Stephen Hawkins, your search has come to an end!
Dru Posted October 17, 2001 Posted October 17, 2001 I once won $250 from the ACC for prose excellence Trask, how's that ? PS I suspect both Trask and sex Chocolate are pseudonyms for.... I won't say (a certain poster who seems to have about 15 names already on this board)
allthumbs Posted October 17, 2001 Posted October 17, 2001 Do you think anybody really gives a shit who I am? Unlikely. Sorry aboot giving you shit about your writing ability. I didn't realize you're an award winner. I'll take it all for gospel now.
Beck Posted October 17, 2001 Posted October 17, 2001 Trask, so venomous, wow, must be tough getting through your day! As for Krak, he's a good writer, Eiger Dreams is a fine example of his earlier works, his later stuff, well, he's good enough the big boy publisher houses love em', same with Morman Nailer, Tom Wolfe, Stephen King and whoever else has been writing best sellers lately- And, although never having met the man Dru has my respect and commendation for his erudition and prose, seems like a bright bulb amongst the rest of the Tikkas out here!
Dru Posted October 17, 2001 Posted October 17, 2001 xxx [This message has been edited by Dru (edited 10-17-2001).]
Dru Posted October 17, 2001 Posted October 17, 2001 "aw gee, shucks, thanks Beck!" (blush) I'm a loser, baby, so why don't you SPRAY me... trask?
allthumbs Posted October 17, 2001 Posted October 17, 2001 Are you all flustered dru? Why the double post?
allthumbs Posted October 17, 2001 Posted October 17, 2001 I'll leave ya alone now dru. How's it feel to be the recipient for a change. I notice guys like you and Caveman can really dish it out, but sure as hell can't take it. That seems to be the norm with all smart guys I've encountered.
Matt Posted October 17, 2001 Posted October 17, 2001 The sun is shining, my dog wants to run and I don't have to sit behind this desk anymore. Ahhh. [This message has been edited by Matt (edited 10-17-2001).]
allthumbs Posted October 17, 2001 Posted October 17, 2001 Shut up Beck. I wasn't talkin to you. quote: Originally posted by Beck: Trask, so venomous, wow, must be tough getting through your day! As for Krak, he's a good writer, Eiger Dreams is a fine example of his earlier works, his later stuff, well, he's good enough the big boy publisher houses love em', same with Morman Nailer, Tom Wolfe, Stephen King and whoever else has been writing best sellers lately- And, although never having met the man Dru has my respect and commendation for his erudition and prose, seems like a bright bulb amongst the rest of the Tikkas out here!
To_The_Top Posted October 18, 2001 Posted October 18, 2001 Wow, leave the computer for a while and there are 56 posts on this! I met Jon Krakauer at a book signing for into thin air, he seemed humble, and I think he was using a portion of the profits from the book to help people in Nepal with schools. I liked Eiger Dreams the most out of all his books. When Thin Air came out it hit the public, with this I always told people to read Anatoli's book to get a balanced perception. He is no Abbey, but Abbey didn't write about climbing.
Dru Posted October 18, 2001 Posted October 18, 2001 Abbey did write about climbing - descending and then climbing up slot canyons, in Desert Solitaire. Also there is a climbing scene in Monkey Wrench Gang where they climb a cliff to escape from the Mormon search and rescue team...
willstrickland Posted October 18, 2001 Posted October 18, 2001 quote: Originally posted by Dru: Choco-nut Mailer should move to Utah and change his name to Mormon Nailer and do a bunch of Zion aid. Then I will read him. Or maybe just hook up with a bunch of the BYU ladies...a Mormon nailer for sure
Alpine_Tom Posted October 18, 2001 Posted October 18, 2001 I didn't think Krakauer came across as arrogant in "Into Thin Air." He talks about when he was younger, how he and his buddies joked about the S. route on Everest being the Yak route, and how they were "real climbers" who wouldn't sully themselves on it. The reality, as he reports, is that you can't imagine how brutally hard it really is. That doesn't sound to me like arrogance. Sure his view of things is different than Boukriev's (sp?) and reading the two books together gives a real Rashomon-like effect. Boukriev has his own axe to grind, and is pretty defensive about lots of stuff (people joking about him, calling him "sneakers".) A bigger theme in ITA is how much different it is to be on a guided climb. K talks about getting back to his tent after the summit day, as all the shit was happening, and just climbing into his tent, leaving the rescuing to the guides. He's aware that he would never have done that if there weren't guides. That's part of the destructive effect of guided climbs; they encourage even strong, experienced climbers to abandon their ethic to the guides. I don't see how you could come away from ITA thinking that guiding on a place like Everest is a good idea. I liked Eiger Dreams quite a bit, and liked the New Yorker article that turned into Into the Wild (which I never read.) I wonder if what bothers climbers about K is that he wrote a best-seller. I knew dancers who really resented seeing women walking around in leg-warmers, back in the 80's when they were the fashion. And climbers who've done their thing is obscurity, even around here, suddenly hear couch-potatoes on the bus discussing "what went wrong" on Everest as though if THEY were there, they'd have done things differently. If Into Thin Air had been a niche book, like Touching the Void (still the most riveting climbing book I've ever read, still I can't put on crampons without thinking about the crampon on his broken leg catching on the fabric of his pants and grinding the bone!) I doubt people would have the strong feelings about it that they did.
allthumbs Posted October 18, 2001 Posted October 18, 2001 Alpine- I agree with your slant on this subject wholeheartedly. I think doing 8000m's just might entitle one to a bit of braggadocio. It's one hell of an accomplishment.
Dan_Petersen Posted October 18, 2001 Posted October 18, 2001 I don't know why people want to slam Dru when he provides so much useful information. Here I thought a Mormon Nailer was a guy from Utah with multiple wives and Dru points out its an LDS aid climber. What a dummy I am.
allthumbs Posted October 19, 2001 Posted October 19, 2001 dru's alright- his subtle wit and answer for everything gets old sometimes though; sorry dru. I know you're a talented climber and author. I'm just curious though dru, you say you work for the can. govt. yet you've posted at c.c. in the thousands, during working hrs. What the hell do you do? Watch security monitors or something? Must be nice to have a job that allows you to extrapolate online all day. Whatever- Yep, I'm online at work too, difference is I'm self-employed.
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