Luna Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 This is a particulaly ironic one. On the basis of a faulty Department of Agriculture study the Bush administration is cracking down on that wasteful program, the free and reduced lunch program for kids. They are going to require verified proof of income rather than filling out the form. I'm sure that the teachers have lots of time to verfiy all that information and collectect from the parents who speak 19 languages in the Seattle schools. What a joke! Never mind that shrubby is throwing all the tax breaks he can bundle to the upper income buddies and that the overrun on almost any defense contract budget could pay for the lunch program several times over. This guy has no shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 parents should provide proof of income there's no free lunch in life sister get with the program Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Posted February 5, 2003 Author Share Posted February 5, 2003 Ah another sharp reply from the unemployed. Are you on the dole? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 eat me, turd i've worked daily since i was 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Posted February 5, 2003 Author Share Posted February 5, 2003 Gotta go do field work - but. The balance or lack of, in giving breaks to the rich and hammering on lower income programs is a joke. Like Bill Gate's kids are get a free lunch or something. Later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 zzzzzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeclimb9 Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 It's called "compassionate conservatism". That's why social service funding in Bush's budget proposal is being decreased by over 75%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 Hey, I got kids in school. I see what goes on there. The school system has been abusing the lunch program for years. Bout' time someone demanded some accountability and common sense. Gimme a break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minx Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 It's called "compassionate conservatism". That's why social service funding in Bush's budget proposal is being decreased by over 75%. as liberal as I am and as appalled as I am that Shrub is making these kind of cuts, i still think there is room for programs to be better run. the question has to be is it worth it. will we spend more money rooting out the abusers of the system than leaving it alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 At the head table in the cafeteria, one of the nuns from a Catholic elementary school had placed a big bowl of bright red, fresh, juicy apples. Beside the bowl, she placed a note which read, "Take only one. Remember, God is watching." At the other end of the table was a bowl full of freshly baked chocolate chip cookies, still warm from the oven. Beside the bowl, a little note scrawled in a child's handwriting which read, "Take all you want. God is watching the apples." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott_J Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 (edited) Trask its not the school systems that have abused the food programs. I believe that its been lawyers and federal bureaucrats that have done the public school systems in. School adminiatration had NO BALLS. Non what so ever. If they have any they are either fired or their balls are removed and put in a mason jar somewhere on a shelf. Lawyers have done schools in by sueing the schools in for every little infraction and big infraction. Sure some of the suits are justified but tons of them are just digging for money. as a result schools back off from so much stuff it makes you sick. In 23 years I have seen, heard and been involved in suits. My take on the public schools of America is they are broken. Natcho(I refuse to spell it correctly) got on my case for not writing every little detail of my road rage incident in the 70's with the logger. I could go into all the details of the schools here, but why? Sure we still produce good kids, but there is so much bull shit that goes on that you are not allowed to stop for reasons.... again that I refuse to go into because its just too much and too controversial. We have so much controversy on this board already that I just don't want to go there. Funny for me to say that but that is the case. got to go kids are coming. School taxes are another thing. Why does the entire country(correct me if I am wrong) see fit to saddle the land owner with paying for schools? There should be another way to have a different tax pay for schools. I have no answers. Does anyone out there have any? Edited February 5, 2003 by sisu_suomi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 I think the point of the orginal thread is that the screws are put to lower end social programs while no one gripes about the free ride the upper income is getting from the proposed tax cuts or the wasteful spending for defense. Compartively the social programs pale in costs. So some family of 4 earning $25k instead of $24k gets in under the wire. So what? Here's an example from the other end. During the competition for the Joint Strike Fighter, Lockeed, one of the contractors, went $3 million over budget. The judging criteria were cost, construction efficiency, and technical plane applications. No one blinked at the $3 million cost over-run and Lockeed won the competition. This is a minor example. No one calls for the complete overhaul of the military because of this wasteful spending. But we're going to institute a paper chase to root out the slackers on the free lunch program. Give me a break. You want your kids to learn more? Get the feds off the teachers backs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 I think the point of the orginal thread is that the screws are put to lower end social programs while no one gripes about the free ride the upper income is getting from the proposed tax cuts or the wasteful spending for defense. Compartively the social programs pale in costs. So some family of 4 earning $25k instead of $24k gets in under the wire. So what? Here's an example from the other end. During the competition for the Joint Strike Fighter, Lockeed, one of the contractors, went $3 million over budget. The judging criteria were cost, construction efficiency, and technical plane applications. No one blinked at the $3 million cost over-run and Lockeed won the competition. This is a minor example. No one calls for the complete overhaul of the military because of this wasteful spending. But we're going to institute a paper chase to root out the slackers on the free lunch program. Give me a break. You want your kids to learn more? Get the feds off the teachers backs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottP Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 Hey, I got kids in school. I see what goes on there. The school system has been abusing the lunch program for years. You are ignorant and/or delusional. Either way it is obvious that you don't know what you are talking about. It's not a school system issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 scott, you're a school teacher aren't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegetablebelay Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 Janitor, more likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 he's always had a hard on for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 I think that parents should be held accountable. If you want the service you ought to be willing to prove that you need it. People who cheat the system are totaly LAME!!!! nothing pisses me off more than a free lunch kid that gets dropped off in a brand new SUV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 That happens a lot. Glad you're not smoking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottP Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 he's always had a hard on for me. Do you remember why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 No, can you please refresh my memory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott_J Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 Janitor, more likely. I am not one of the custodial staff, vegecock. By the way without a good custodial and secretarial staff the schools would grind to a halt. These people can contribute positively to a school's atmosphere. I've seen some amazing things happen for kids when the entire staff clicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegetablebelay Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 Hey Sisu, keep up with the discussion. It was a response to Trask who was talking about ScottP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 pull that thong outta yur ass, Sisu personally, i'm not dissin' teachers school boards and lame govt. programs...yes peace brah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott_J Posted February 5, 2003 Share Posted February 5, 2003 Hey Sisu, keep up with the discussion. It was a response to Trask who was talking about ScottP. Sorry, Vege, and thanks for the laugh Trask. Personally I don't like thongs on anyone. I saw(shudder) thongs on several very obese females and males in Hawaii a few years ago. Needless to say even a good looking girl gets the vivid image of the hidden thong back to my frontal lobe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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