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Dave Page??? WRONG!! His service has gone to shit, and he's copped a 'tude. I have been blessed and seen the true light. The only correct answer is Rumata's. Enough said. And thanks to all of you out there who helped me to see the light. original thread

Alpine Kitty looks a little gripped.

W.A. Yankovic has got to write some of the most incredibly funny lyrics ever, I don't care who you are.

We're Knights of the Round Table. We dance whene'er we're able. We do routines and chorus scenes With footwork impeccable. We dine well here in Camelot. We eat ham and jam and spam a lot. We're Knights of the Round Table. Our shows are formidable, But many times we're given rhymes That are quite unsingable. We're opera mad in Camelot. We sing from the diaphragm a lot. In war we're tough and able, Quite indefatigable. Between our quests we sequin vests and impersonate Clark Gable. It's a busy life in Camelot. I have to push the pram a lot.

shhhhhhhhh... Everybody knows there's no witnesses in the Federal Witness Protection Program... it's the criminals themselves.

There's been a lot of discussion on this topic on this board in the past. A search should yield impressive results. But the Q&D answer (for me, at least) is to sharpen it to a butcher knife sharpness with an even bevel of about 30 degrees off the vertical on both sides of the top of the pick, then "knock the edge down" a bit by lightly dragging a flat file across the edge. Do the same for the pointy end. Otherwise, it'll just "fold over" the first time you go out.

Me and some friends were into making brews about 25 years ago down in Houston. We came up with one pretty good beer which we named Toad Ale Brew. We had some nice labels made up for it, and T-shirts and all. Sold it around the clubhouse pool, until the BATF got wind and asked us politely not to do that anymore. So then we asked for a small $2 "donation" per six-pack. The BATF wasn't so kind the next time they came to visit us...

That's rich, especially the part about it being loaded all the time. FWIW, this 3-month salary BS is just that... BS. If I'd spent 3 month's salary on an engagement ring, my wife would've castrated me for being so stupid with our money (and yes, at that point it is our money - don't forget that). Even when she did find the purchase/appraisal papers in the safe downstairs a coupla years later, she said, "Shit Honey, we coulda taken another 4-week vacation to Europe on that!" Whaddaya gonna do? Damned if you spend it, damned if you don't.

Get 'em to drag your ass behind them on their sleds and take you up to Mt. Roothan and/or Chimney Rock and do some cold-weather aid routes or mixed stuff. Or have them drag you over to Gunsight Peak, Harrison Peak and/or Beehive Dome. There might be some low-angled ice up thattaway, especially on Beehive. Just a thought...

For what use do you empoly this piece of gear? As a fluke?

Brand new #4 wired Friend, with Putzl QD and biners. Came out without a struggle at all. Was probably bailed off of, I guess. Tried to give it back via booty call on this board, but no takers after 2 months, so it's mine now.

Bring a map, compass, and altimeter, or a GPS, and know how to use them, especially in a white-out. Be careful wandering around the edge of the Muir snowfield when looking for that gunsight. A lot of folks find the "fast way down" over there, usually in white-out conditions, every coupla years or so, if'n you get my meaning...

Well, you know what I mean. Perhaps "...bolted the crap out of it..." was a much poorer choice of words on my part than "...has a lot of valuable experience placing bolts in Tenino sandstone..." would have been. I just know OW's had a lot of experience working with the particular material in question, and maybe corvallisclimb could stand to benefit from OW's practical adventures in the medium. Just so everyone here knows, I am definitely not here to start a bolt/not bolt war on this board; there are far too many other battles for me to fight. If one must choose, one must choose wisely...

Send a PM to Off_White. He's got his own sandstone crag in his front yard that he's bolted the crap out of. He'll have good practical advice (not to say that what has already been posted isn't).

I've been conducting all my tire bidness with Les Schwab for well over 10 years now. Haven't been disappointed yet.

Hi Eric, It does have some variations, but you'll find a bazillion good placements in the following ranges: BD stoppers: #9 thru #13 BD hexes: #6 thru #8 WC Friends: #1 thru #2.5 Double up in the middle range of the cams. This route is a rope-stretcher. You can save some of your "route pro" by using small nuts/TCUs at the belay. There's not much use for them elsewhere on this route. Never too hard, frequent rest stances, and the jams are to die for. Best hand jammin' at the crag. You'll love it.

From where are you acquiring them? That could be an issue (i.e., eBay v. sierratradingpost, etc.). Some warranty or return policy may be attached to them, or not. As far as safety goes, I'd use them, since they're BDs. I'd be way less inclined to even consider them if they were made by Irbus.

Didn't see the show, but Eric Simonson, who was also an integral part of that expedition (he organized and led it) came to Yakima at CWMR's request and did a fundraising show for us. We replaced our truck with a lot of the proceeds from that show. Have you read his book of that expedition, "Ghosts of Everest" ? Both in his presentation and in his book, he made it sound like Mallory and Irvine likely did not make it there first.

Some of these are just great! I liked iain's "lower portcullis" comment as well.

When Christian missionaries knock at your door, invite them in to talk about the Hari Krishnas

Pictures of the Talon here.

It goes at 5.6, it's in Beckey's guide, and Joe Puryear and Stony Richards climbed it, like, last summer, or summer before last. Approach from the NF Tieton River Road, not from US 12. Joe posts here as joepuryear, or you can contact him at his homepage: http://www.cascadeimages.com BTW, Eric, you should consider coming out to the second meeting of the newly forming Yakima Climber's "Club" this Thursday. Joe was at the first meeting, and he'll prolly show up again this month. He's a really nice guy and I'm sure he'd tell ya anything you might want to know about the stuff he's done in the Tieton. The meeting will be in the upstairs forum at Glenwood Square at Tieton and 51st-ish at 7:00 p.m. Local climber and attorney Rod Nelson is gonna show some slides of his Cho Oyo expedition.

It's a joke that had more to do with my birthday than buying a car.

Thanks, iain. I have to log off now so I can get to the Ferrari dealership in time for my mid-life crisis.

Well, iain, I'm not that far west.