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Way to go Gary Yvnge!

I think that you're right, especially in light of how exciting that game was. The platoff that followed that had very important games also, if I remember correctly. Wasn't the series with the Yanks full?

Done

That was not a single game that had importance. In '78 it all came down to game 7. My list was important games. You will also note that I did not put ant games from the '79 NBA Finals on my list. That was because the Sonics won the series four games to one, so no single game was all-deciding.

1) Maybe lots of people at Summit Post are stupid. I know that Klenke and Allison both go there. 2) Maybe, also, people don't read trip reports there. Go there yourself, and tell me if it's a troll. I don't think so.

The Geologic Map Of the Skykomish River (Tabor, et al. 1993) clearly shows a number of lenses of marble, on either side of US 2. The map is of suffiently high detail, that GPS coordinates could probable be derived.

It's not a troll, at least on my part. And on their part, I think that it is just plain old fashioned stupidity.

I copied this from summit post. Some people are lucky. The most enlightning portion is high-lighted in blue. Machame Route on Kilimanjaro Post a Comment to this Trip Report Date Climbed: Aug 20, 2004 Posted by abidevan on May 09, 2005 (513 Hits) Except of course the sheer physical exhaustion and abusing one's body to its limit, my trip to Mount Kilimanjaro in Tanzania was a memorable one. We achieved our only objective, to make it to the 19,340ft summit. After that, everything else seemed unimportant. So much so, we didn't have the energy nor the inclination to do so many other things that people do when in Africa - big safaris, sightseeing, etc. But the climb itself was something to remember. We all stayed at the Moivaro Coffee Plantation in Arusha, one of the larger towns near Kilimanjaro. The place was peaceful and serene, built along the old British colonial theme. Our chief Guide, Abel, came the night before the climb to brief us about the climb. The briefing itself made several of us nervous about what we were about to undertake. "Only 45% of the people make the final day ascent," he said. We were told time and again that the final day would be the most grueling, starting at 1:00 am, summitting at 7:00 am and returning to lower camp at 6:00 pm. We were warned that the temperature and wind conditions would be so severe that everyone was asked to wear 5 layers of clothing on the final day. The route we chose, Machame, would take us over 70 Kilometers and a vertical climb of about 14,000 feet from the base. We would spend the nights at Machame camp (10,000ft), Shira camp (12,500ft), Barranco camp (13,100ft), Karanga valley (13,700ft), Barafu High camp (15,900ft) and after summiting, back down to the Mweka camp (10,500ft). The first 5 days of the climb went off like a breeze. Each of the first five days were pretty similar. We would wake up at 7:00am, eat breakfast, break camp and start hiking by 9:00am. Usually by 4:00pm, we would arrive at the next camp. While long and tedious, we all had plenty of reserve strength to cope with the trek. Abel and his crew made things easier on us by ensuring that every thing happened like clockwork - the tents were set-up when we arrived, food prepared on time, and every need taken care of. The only thing we really had to do was hike. The scenery of Kilimanjaro was very beautiful, changing drastically everyday. From the first day to the sixth day, we went through the lush tropical rainforests; Heather, which is covered by mist and fog throughout the day; Moorland, cool and clear, consisting of short shrubs; The Alpine desert, full of rocks, above the tree line and has temperature fluctuations from 35 C in the day to below 0 C at night; and finally the arctic conditions at the summit where the oxygen level is nearly half of sea level. The sixth day (summit day) started at midnight, high on the mountain; the Barafu high camp (15,900ft). On the previous night we had another group briefing from Abel. The plan was to have 4 guides go up with the 8 of us to the summit. None of us slept that evening. At midnight, after only three hours of rest, we all wore 5-6 layers of clothing along with plenty of covering for our heads, hands and feet. Everyone's spirit was high - we were ready for the task. The four guides - Abel, Nixon, Remedy and Nagabona would take us up. We started at 1:00 AM under a waning gibbous moon, assisted by our headlamps. Our first leg would be to reach Stella Point before sunrise (located at the rim of the Kibo crater at 19,000 ft). The climb from Barafu high camp to Stella Point was very steep, dark and sometimes very dangerous. As a few other climbers in our group were very slow, we decided to split the group up. Latha, in particular, started to become very sluggish, as she stopped to catch a breath every few steps. At one point things were moving so slow that there now was a danger that we would be at a high altitude for too long. Immediately, Abel began using a tactic often called as short-roping to speed her up. Using this technique, very slowly, she made it to Stella Point at 8:30 AM, almost 2 hours later than was planned. From there, it was only another mile to the summit. At Stella Point, Latha was in a very bad shape - face bloated, lips black and blue, and completely drained of energy. Clearly, we would not have made it up to this point without the guides pulling her up. As soon as we reached this point, she slumped down and in a muted way said that she would go no further. Having come so far, we were not about to let her go back down without summitting. Everyone started to coax her to go the last mile. Within 20 minutes of taking a Dextramethorphan tablet, some slight energy came back to her, and reluctantly she started following us up the last stretch. It was the most tenuous and most grueling last 1 hour to the Uhuru Peak. By the time we made it to the summit, it was almost 10:00am. The time at the summit itself was very brief - some muted celebration, photographs, and hugging all the way around. We left soon thereafter and arrived at the lower camp around 6:00pm. On the way back, it was the same routine, two guides literally lifting Latha by her shoulders and running downhill to reach lower altitude quickly. Without the "Dex" and the guides, who knows what might have happened? Others felt the strain too. Vasu and some of the other climbers had severe altitude headache. It was a long day indeed for us. Everything after the making it to the summit of Kilimanjaro was just routine grinding it out till we reached the lodge exactly a week after we started the trip. Do these people have any idea that their friend almost died? That they almost killed her? OMFG.

Yes, the "summit" register from Bellygood was great. I never figured out who wrote most of it, Carl or Scott. Pretty funny lines about Perry. Mountain had a good history by Robin Barley in 1979, and Gordy Smaills guidebook is one of a kind.

What is Mike Heath doing now-a-days? He is a demi-god to NW climbing.

Yes, I know that. Is it OK with you that someone is even dumber than you? Or do you claim all CC dumbness?

Is she married to Mike Heath, or is another of Ome's daughters married to him?

rat, I don't think matt is tough enough to hike over big jim big jim deserves some lakes named after him

Damn, you're really stupid. Damn, you're even stupider.

Has Kemp finally graduated from rehab? Dear Dumbass: I was refering to Shaun Alexander, Seattle football star. You, with your head up your dumbass, were thinking of Shawn Kemp, former Seattle basketball star.

Next weekend could be the most important game in Seattle sports history. It will definitely be the all time biggest sports game ever in Seattle. I think Shaun will be back. My list of all time important Seattle games (in no particular order) 1) 1983 AFC Championship in Maimi (loss) 2) Game 7, 1978 NBA Finals ((?)in Washingtonn DC) (loss) 3) Rosebowl January 1, 1992 (win) The most important event (not necessarily a single game) was clearly the Sonics 1979 Championship.

I have, or better put, my buddy led it and I followed it. That doesn't change the fact that CCH is fucked.

Dee Molenaar's classic "The Challenge of Rainier" (1971, and later editions), describes in detail a high altitude traverse done in 1968. The map "Mt Rainier Glacier Travel Guide - Adventures on the High Traverse Routes"(1998) describes several alternative routes. The map is by Stanely Maps, a Division of Mid-State Equipment, Box 880 Mercer Island WA 98040. I own this map, and that is where I came up with the publisher info. I have no idea if it is still produced. I am not willing to part with this, but I could attempt to make a copy at Kinko's.

I am sorry about the deceased. I will soon be in East Africa, so am interested in this story. After search the net, nowhere but here have the deaths of five porters been mentioned. Can this be confirmed? Also, many reports mention that it was the camp site that was hit.

CCH deserved it

There, godamnit! I fucking edited it. Who's a sport climber? Me or Rudy? Or neither?

If Rudy was Ralph Nader,and American media was the moderators, we would all be driving around in Corvairs and crashing. People like Rudy brought to the attention of the climbing community the serious problems with Aliens, while CCH was in denial. I know for a fact, that some moderators tried to stifle his complaints. So "calmer heads could prevail". Dave at CCH was not dealing with the problem, so where is the need for calm heads?

How about Porta-ledges?

I would imagine that CCH will be out of buisness within six months. Building climbing protection is a buisness, and I do not think that CCH is ran as a buisness on either the production floor, or the head office.

These are cool fuckers