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quote: Originally posted by Biff: Perhaps the guy meant that he DIDN'T want to do a difficult route, like Lib. Ridge , and would prefer an easier route. probably not biff, we here at cc.com know what people want and there is rarely a miscommunication issue. and even if young dan, does not want to climb lib ridge we already know that too......

dan check out this website very informative about climbing rainier. it has lots of beta for the person who is consummed by one mountain and shows no desire to branch further out into the mountaineering world. excellent newbie resource!! www.danlarsonclimbsraineragain!.com

quote: Originally posted by IceIceBaby: quote:Originally posted by willstrickland: CMI? Don't know what you mean. I've used Petzl and Jumar, prefer the Petzl. I am still trying to figure out which ascender get the most votes I have the Petzl but it feel too flimsy so I am looking to the one I mention above and experience a petzel ascender too flimsy??? ahhh hahahahahaha ahhh hahahahaha ahhhh ahahahahaha ahhhhhahahahahahah ahahahahahaaahhhhahahahahaah sorry aaahhh hahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahaahahah

L.G. i was giving you cheers!!! enjoy time to ride my bike!!

quote: Originally posted by thelawgoddess: [ honestly, though, i don't photograph well. [/QB] WELL I SEEN YOU IN SQUISH A CUOPLE WEEKS AGO BUT I HAVE ONE QUESTION? HOW DOES ONE NOT PHOTOGRAPH WELL?? DOES THE CAMERA BREAK?? I HAVE HEARD THIS BEFORE, BUT NEVER INQUIRED TO WHAT IT ACTUALLY MEANT.

quote: Originally posted by crazyjz: sycophant. does that mean knob gobbler??

one thing this picture makes me wonder about, is over the years bringing large amounts of beer to the crag has always caused the fight as to who carries it. and obviously there is also the the question on foam reduction after a serious hauling session. maybe we need a guide to beer in the backcountry....tread light drink heavy!! i appoint specialed to investigate this subject and report back with findings.....

quote: Originally posted by thelawgoddess: quote:to pick up chicks interesting ... as a chick i never thought of climbing as a way to pick up dudes. you guys aren't all that cute, you know. i rock the dome!!! and crank the big stone!! unattainable!!! [ 05-01-2002, 01:22 PM: Message edited by: erik ]

here's the whole quote one of my favorites. A Word The 1960s marked an awakening in American climbing characterized by a vast increase in climbing activity closely paralleled by a corresponding improvement in technique and equipment. Significant climbing advances have resulted. On the other hand, this combination is producing a serious problem — deterioration of the climbing environment. The deterioration is two-fold, involving the physical aspect of the mountains and the moral integrity of the climbers. No longer can we assume the Earth's resources are limitless; that there are ranges of unclimbed peaks extending endlessly beyond the horizon. Mountains are finite, and despite their massive appearance, they are fragile. Although alpine tundra, meadows, trees, lakes and streams are all endangered, our primary concern here is with deterioration of the rock itself. Granite is delicate and soft — much softer than the alloy steel pitons being hammered into it. On popular routes in Yosemite and elsewhere, the cracks are degenerating into series of piton holes. Flakes and slabs are being pried loose and broken off as a result of repeated placement and removal of hard pitons. We can offer a few immediate solutions. Stay off climbs you do not intend to finish. Don't climb up to Sickle Ledge unless you plan to do the entire Nose. Do not use artificial aid on free climbs. But most of all, start using chocks. Chocks and runners are not damaging to the rock and provide a pleasurable and practical alternative to pitons on most free, and many artificial climbs. Do not use pitons on established clean routes. Where a piton is necessary, a fixed piton should be considered and documented in local guidebooks. Routes of 5.7 difficulty were climbed 60 years ago in England. Today the footholds on these routes are well polished, but because pitons have not been used, the protection cracks are still in mint condition. Equally serious is a moral deterioration. Armed with ever more advanced gadgetry and techniques, the style of technical climbing is gradually becoming so degraded that elements vital to the climbing experience — adventure and appreciation of the mountain environment itself — are being submerged. Siege tactics, bolt ladders, bat hooks, bash chocks, detailed topos and equipment lists, plus a guaranteed rescue, diminish rather than enhance a climb. Even now, existing techniques and technology are so powerful that almost any climb imaginable can be realized, and the fear of the unknown reduced to rote exercise. Mad bolters are among the worst offenders of the alpine environment. Young climbers must learn that bolting is done as a substitute for climbing. Guides, climbing schools and established climbers have a heavy responsibility here. We believe the only way to ensure the climbing experience for ourselves and future generations is to preserve (1) the vertical wilderness, and (2) the adventure inherent in the experience. Really, the only insurance to guarantee this adventure and the safest insurance to maintain it is exercise of moral restraint and individual responsibility. Thus, it is the style of the climb, not the attainment of the summit, which is the measure of personal success. Traditionally stated, each of us must consider whether the end is more important than the means. Given the vital importance of style, we suggest that the keynote is simplicity. The fewer gadgets between the climber and the climb, the greater the chance to attain the desired communication with oneself — and nature. As we enter this new era of mountaineering, re-examine your motives for climbing. Employ restraint and good judgment. Remember the rock, the other climbers — climb clean. -YVON CHOUINARD

SO I SPENT A PORTION OF THIS AM, writing my members of congress. i outlined two concerns in my letters. the fee demo and larry's actions. i figure if the rangers aint gonna do something about it then maybe we could get our congress people to take some action. and out a stop to both sicking issues.

quote: Originally posted by Crack: ...i've heard that nixxing an aider mid pitch and leaving yourself only one is the way to go, super simple they say

after battling with the aiders question and trying it all out.... i came to the conclusion that two is easiest. you have less crap to get in your way. and it speeds things up. four aiders makes it almost confortable to mess with your placement. is slows you down. 3 is a little better then four, but still all that extra crap is annoying and slow. hooks bd talon couple cam hooks and a larger one and only if the hole is deep enough

BONE i thought you belonged to the k.y.j.

talked to bar. they didnt sound excited about a large group of people, due to the fact that this is their busiest night of the week. accomadations will be difficult to get and hold on too....

no audio is allowed without consent.....

quote: Originally posted by iain: You could be the victim of the Klez virus, which is going around right now. Check out this Wired Magazine article for details here . thanks dude, thats exactly what it was...... my boss owes you a beer......

quote: Originally posted by jon: Charlie- Am I on crack or is there a birthday cake next to your name? probably both!!!

jon, it is not normal spam you recieve with your hotmail account. these are sign up deals..because it gives me the option to chnage my profile and choose subjects that i am interested in...and special newsletters....plus the person has filled out some quite colorful profile info for me......stff that would be gleaned from here..... quite disturbing when people feel the need to be complety worthless......i got a nikel to make you feel better.... get a life(not you jon)

quote: Originally posted by chucK: Next week! Index is Eastside! i think due to the low turn out of the eastsiders maybe we need to choose an alternate location....how about the bit and spur in springdale utah??? i hear there is good climbing near by and some colorful locals...sadly enough the beer is weaker then lambone, but just like lamebone we will have to deal with what we get.......

quote: Originally posted by dyno merchant: Why is it such a big deal to produce a bouldering guide for areas in Washington? Why can't a guide be produced for the sole reason of helping people find areas that have awesome problems? Isn't that why we have hiking guidebooks around the world - so we can find and hike a spectacular trail? Why can't guides for bouldering be done in the same spirit? What's wrong with finding a great boulder or boulder problem and sharing it? Is finding one and sharing it any different than finding a great trail or route and sharing them? What gives... dyno, you are wrong to compare bouldering wihth hijking.....first of all the trails are alreadyt there and are managed(well suppossedly) by the deforrest service. the trails and they 'damage' that it took to create them has been done, and hopfully it was done with the idea of as little impact as possible. whereas your pad toting little buddies will trample anything to reach a boulder, they will remove vegatation and stomp all over the plant life that resides at the base....this is all new with little consideration of the enviroemtn surronding it. i know that the blm is studying boulder base impact in the bishop area. and from what i see on thier website the impact is serve....too bad you boulders didnt hypew this shit 10yrs ago when it could have been grandfathered in..... either way have fun and dont f$%k up the enviroment.....

NO THIS IS AN ACT OF A PERSON. LULCKILY I KNOW MY RIGHTS AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN, AND HAVE NIP THIS IN THE BUD.....AND IT IS NOT ALL CHRISTIAN SPAM, BUT LOTS OF STUFF. AND NO IT IS NOT FROM PORN.....I AM AT WORK.... I WILL FIND OUT SOON WHO IS THE ASSHOLE. ALL I CAN SAY IS GETA LIFE DUDE!

TRAILS at pt defience are great for lots of activites and running is the best one. THEY HAVe some nice loops with cross trails that allow you to add or take away miles. enjoy erik

whom ever finds it funny to sign me up for christian news letters and all sorts of other shit needs to stop. this is an internet chat board, if find the desire to hold grudges or create conflicts because of things on this site. you have issues. leave me alone please. thank you

south twin

where we doin it at....i got 3 ideas....name another if you want....