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If I were that country club elite I'd be a conservative. But hey, if it helps you to think thats the only way to see the world, so be it.

ahh.. another product of American public schools. Check out my new Tee:

mistaken stereotypes amuse me

All I heard was the sound of jackboots

...and now you're talking sideways? Nice try. When was the last time you skied in the US Fairweather? They all subscribe to the nanny model. Ahh JayB. Your resistance of trial by jury is so touchingly liberal. After all, democracy is all well and good when it gets the result you want. Refuting statistics at the same time? You sure you aren't a Kennedy?

Huh? If ski areas close the terrain park due to "unsafe conditions" and close runs due to "unsafe conditions" then can fine me for skiing there even if I take personal responsibility for my actions. Yes, I think the resort holds responsibility for their terrain when they've opened it. I'd much rather US resorts operate with a business model of only being responsible for lift service and groomed terrain - and anyone who wants to access other terrain from their lifts is free to do so and holds complete fiscal responsibility for any actions that occur when they do access said terrain including rescue of themselves and others. I find the nannying without accountability of the US ski areas intolerable - if you are going to look after me, do it well. If you aren't going to look after me, let me make up my own mind. Don't charge me for nannying but leave me holding the bag.

I'd be glad to see every ski resort in the US dead - good riddance to bad rubbish. I never saw that many injuries when I was patrolling, but hey, whatever dood. You are beginning to sound like a Masshole

Kenny and Peter, the guy who died, weren't skiing on the same jump, so the witness has some issues with his testimony. Again, data would suggest that jump had a higher than average injury rate. I would have thought the normal functionally retarded resort employee would have changed something, apparently that wasn't the case.

Oh my! It looks like we have one of the expert witnesses from the case testifying - he's got all the facts at his fingertips! He's managed to establish the guest was grossly negligent without ever going to the courtroom! 15 accidents on that same jump that same season were admitted into evidence. 8 people tobogganed away from that jump in the weeks preceding it including a broken back. That's pretty damn high in my experience, even compared to the T-Line summer camps. It would seriously suggest either the jump is badly designed or the Seattle area has a substantially larger population of gaper park rats. Fixing either of those is cheap for the report, certainly cheaper than the increase in their insurance premium. Like I said, only a fool would rush to judgement based on a newspaper report.

So you can imagine no situation where a resort should be held liable for poorly designed or maintained structures or features? I'm not saying the resort was 100% at fault in this instance, nor have I ever said that zero risk resorts can or should be created. Only a fool would rush to judgement on this case based on newspaper reports. What I am is decidedly not willing to set a precedent that resorts can never be held responsible for what amounts to an amusement park. Absolving corporations of all responsibility would be your ideology, no? They are, afterall, always acting in our best interest?

Nordic jumps were constructed for the masses in the 1920s and 1930s - many city parks of the era had a range of jump hills from small to massive, all designed with appropriate landing areas. My grandfather would go down to the park and jump. Any park skier knows there are well constructed jumps and poorly constructed jumps. Indeed skiers in this very thread mentioned the bad landings at Snoqualmie. Why you are arguing a resort shouldn't be responsible for poorly constructed jumps and harping on your mantra of choice "personal responsibility" is beyond me. US ski areas charge for and advertise a homogenized handholding product, they should be liable if they fail to provide it. Additionally, if healthcare in this country were affordable this lawsuit probably never would have happened. "personal responsibility" is all well and good until you have to pay for a cripple for the next 100 years (I'm 100% none of the blowhards posting here could afford that for the future).

That would be the precedent set by those actions.

you keep your fantasy, I'll keep mine. I like 3somes with supermodels more than believing shoes are the debil

That resort owners aren't responsible for designing and maintaining their resorts to a reasonable standard? Sweet - no more maintenance bills for the chairlift!

You can't engineer jumps in terrain parks? I always thought park rats were dumb, but that they can't figure out ski jumps have been designed for at least a century is a bit surprising.

gnarled, mangled... semantics. the feet I've seen of people who wore boots all their working life didn't look nearly so nasty. I've heard the same ancedote before, I'm not sure what it proves aside from a nice soundbite. But speaking of semantics, are sandals shoes or not? Because the feet in India, Peru, Thailand, Cambodia, Indonesia and Paraguay among the sandal wearers look pretty nasty too....almost as bad as the place dropping.

Ever looked at the feet of Nepali porters? They've some mangled digits dude. As soon as people forget about the prior bit of "western shoes are bad" quackery (earth shoes!) people come up with something new

I was speaking 8 Bintang at the time.

I was thinking the incentives Canada provided for skilled rich Asians, particularly those wishing to leave Hong Kong pre '98, were probably quite effective.

As opposed to some female surgerys... http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070524230339.aha5xr5x&show_article=1 I couldn't find last years article about the woman who got herself a hymen for her husbands 40th

the only people who care one way or another is partner ... so women in most cases (or gay men)

what social groups did he move in that people spent lots of time staring at his schlong?

nah, just the freemarket women who find someone more desirable.

Anyone have experiences to share? Or Freeport contacts they'd be willing to share?

Include your names inside the bags as well as outside and self insure. Ensure you have reasonably long stopovers at each of your connections. Your bag is more likely to be delayed than lost, though both are relatively rare.