cj001f

What do you expect from K2? The one time I checked it out in the store it looked pretty cool. Not worth the $120 to me cool, but still cool.

http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/threadz/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/307305/page/4/view/collapsed/sb/5/o/all/fpart/1 Of course some od us are not nearly as good a climber as you, so we don't know shit

The American Mountaineering Museum (@ the AAC Headquarters) Neptune Mountaineering? They've got the knife Edmund's boots And a whole bunch of other stuff. Shame I don't know of something in this neck of the woods.

I wouldn't touch the shaft, but if you want to get rid of the rust on the shaft, try a little steel wool (lightly!) then cover it with some clear lacquer.

And bright enough to see without their bifocals! And I didn't need to ski - I got to process audit :shoots himself:

You ever check out the Dana Design Hattarp? http://www.danadesign.com/shelters/hat_tarp.asp

Party Affiliation is for fools. It just strengthens their visegrip one us. As for "liberal" vs. "conservative" the terms have opposite meanings in other cultures.

MMMMMMMMmmmmmmm Spring Skiing!

They ain't listed on VW Canada's site. Mexico is a whole nother story - they were producing the ORIGINAL beetle there until not that long ago.

Yoga killed it?

Any car w/performance tires isn't much fun to drive on snow. As for it's "sedan" abilities, the backseat sucks. Really it comes to image - and right now imports are much "cooler"

Funny, when I've been there in spring, the lower lot had the 'bile trailers, the upper had skiers. Maybe cc could raise some bucks and have a climber's only lot?

mattp & iain presented a much better case than I will. My reasoning why climber's don't is: If it's steep/exposed enough for you to rope up - what are the odds your going to survive an avalanche on that slope? Not good....

Try the couloirmag forum. More splitboarders there than you can shake 2 planks at.

Driver Held In 8½-Mile Dragging Of Va. Man By Ian Shapira Washington Post Staff Writer Monday, March 1, 2004; Page A01 A Lorton motorist was charged yesterday with manslaughter after he hit a man with his vehicle on Interstate 95 near the Fairfax County Parkway and dragged his body 81/2 miles before notifying authorities, Fairfax County police said. Early yesterday, Josuel Galdino, 25, hit Fitsum Gebreegziabher, 27, of Woodbridge along I-95 after Gebreegziabher, who had been driving south, apparently stopped and got out of his Toyota Camry after getting a flat tire, according to a police account. Galdino struck the rear of the Toyota, apparently pinning Gebreegziabher beneath the front-end suspension of his Mitsubishi Montero, said police, who would not speculate on what time the incident occurred. Galdino then drove 81/2 to nine miles, to his home in Lorton, before realizing what had happened, police spokesman Sophia Grinnan said. "That's gruesome," she said. "He drives home and there's a guy still attached to his car." Aside from manslaughter, Galdino was charged with driving while intoxicated and felony hit-and-run. He is being held without bond at the Fairfax County adult detention center, Grinnan said. At 4 a.m., Fairfax County police towed Gebreegziabher's Toyota, which had a flat tire and rear-end damage, Grinnan said. The Toyota was hit while in the left lane of a stretch of the interstate that has no emergency lanes, said Mary Ann Jennings, another Fairfax County police spokesman. Two hours after authorities towed the Toyota, Galdino called Fairfax County police to report a dead body on his property, Grinnan said. "He called and said he thinks he hit someone on the interstate, but he said he wasn't sure, and there's a dead guy in front of [his] house," Grinnan said. Grinnan said she did not know whether Galdino removed the body from his car before investigators arrived. She said investigators returned yesterday to the point of impact on I-95 and followed Galdino's path home to try to gather the victim's remains or other evidence.

Aye. My knee started bitching like a girlfriend 1/4 way up the trail.

VW killed the Eurovan because no one wanted to buy it <5k units a year ain't many. 2 seperate relatives of mine purchase Eurovans in the past year. It's not a particularly impressive vehicle. As for build "quality" I wouldn't associate that with VW's of late.

jaee- Most of what you said of rescue dynamics is true. You have neglected the distribution of shovels/probes throughout the party, in your calculations. As the TLG said - what if the person(s) with the shovel is buried? Unless we're talking about Mazama sized groups, scratch that, even if you are talking about Mazama sized groups, it's more than possible for a majority of the group to get buried (last years BC accidents!)

WTF? It's a 'bile only parking lot?

Sorry to diabuse your idealistic notion of a locally based economy. The world is heading the opposite direction - and will continue to do so. Or are you willing to give up road trips, and never go more than 100 miles from your home? Buy only climbing gear produced within 100 miles (got to transport it!) Give up on fresh fruits and vegetables in the winter? (those come in from far away!) As for this gem That's everything. Everything you consume has had contact with oil. Food. Consumer Goods. Everything.

Uh.... before Oil came coal. Oil wasn't considered strategically signifigant until this century - when Winston Churchill (Lord of the Admiralty at the time) decided to switch the British fleet from coal (abundant in Britain!) to oil (not very abundant pre-North Sea). Realistically energy conservation and reduced use is the future - and the quickest way to obtain these efficencies is by raising the price of energy(oil)

The Lofoten Islands!

So, make the technology economically viable and go for it. eg - end the oil subsidies (road funding!) A prime historical example is the El Portal road to Yosemite. There used to be a railroad that ran from Merced to El Portal(other side of the river as you drive in). After the road, built by the state with convict labor opened, it was no longer viable - esp. when the bus companies charged more to go from El Portal to the valley, than from merced to the valley!

Moguls are created by inferior skiers who cannot handle the steepness of the slope they are "skiing" and are forced to make "jump turns" while "skiing" downhill : Are you stupid? Jump turns are LESS likely to create moguls. Moguls are created on abut every slope - it's what happens when snow is displaced by turning.

To save others some effort