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There are too many indie, cult, obsure terrible films out there to list, so I'm gonna keep it to the ones at least made it to the regular theaters. My Vote, and I'm embarrased to say I saw it, "Date Movie" One of the few times I felt bad for people in hollywood.

When it is cold and there is water to freeze

Crap, that's better than a lot on the list I posted. Thanks

Didn't do much research before you moved, eh? Well you're pretty much fucked around these parts for a while. Buy all the guidebooks, read through thousands of times, and start trying/failing every weekend wherever you think is a route you want to do until you get your two-three route mazimum in...if you're lucky. Books: Beckey Guide 1,2,3. Nelson Select I+II. Washington Ice. Porltand Rock. West Coast Ice. Buy all of them.

shit, I forgot Ishtar! I love that movie!

So, for those of you who saw this movie, what did you think...after the hype and initial shock? I think it has to be one of the top funnies movies of all time as far as laugh value goes. Funniest movies ever, off the top of my head: Three Amigos Nat. Lampoons Vacation South Park Movie Bevis and Butthead Movie Princess Bride The Jerk Spaceballs Historty of the World Ladies Man Meet the Parents Airplane I and II Ghostbusters Blues Brothers Spies Like Us Caddyshack What About Bob Dumb and Dumber Dude, Where's My Car Anchorman Talladega Nights Super Troopers Team America World Police Pink Panther and Shot in the Dark Swingers Made Borat Happiness Something About Mary Kingpin Jackass Every Monty Pithon Movie Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas The Big Lobowski Old School Drop Dead Gorgeous Austin Powers 1and2 O Brother Where Art Thou Animal House Army of Darkness and Evil Dead 2 Napolean Dynamite The Muppet Movie 1st 10 minutes of Full Metal Jacket 40 year old Virgin A Fish Called Wanda Planes Trains and Automobiles Dr Strangleglove Young Frankenstein Spinal Tap, and all the spin-off movies Groundhog Day Naked Gun Pee Wee's Big Adventure Happy Gilmore Billy Madison Trading Places Office Space Clerks Dazed and Confused Raising Arizona Rushmore Life Aquatic Royal Tenanbaums Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure i know i'm missing a bunch and can't remember if some movies were funny or not, it's been too long, like the original Police Acadamy, or Meatballs.

looks like we'll all be getting pumped in the gym for an extended period

Alex's photos is Super Box in Field, BC. I've always wanted to do it, but it's never been in when i'm there late dec/early jan. anyone done it?

Yes it can.

NY Gulley Forbidden S Face Freedom Rider Spectre Peak Haunted Wall The Blob Plan 9 Davis Peak NE Buttress Wind Rivers Wolf's Head with hottie girlfriend Wish I did: Last years climb-a-thon Anything at squamish-1st year not climbing there sob Bonanza Russian Route All Sorts of FA's I didn't have time for More in the winds Waynes route on Fury goddamnit Gato Negro and Hyperspace Mark Allen's two WA pass FA's and many many many other things....

Nobody cares if you know her and she's a good climber. The whole point you are missisng, is how lame those pictures are.

hey blueballer, we're not making fun of a person, we don't even know her. We're making fun of the stupid pictures that are clearly geared towards ditzy girlz who like to climb so they can dress up in yoga pants and stretch in the parking lot at the badlands after a rousing chai tea, maybe do three topropes, and complain the rest of the day.

you can see me for free in portland if you want!

You mean that time I almost died when I slid down the frozen stream where you're talking about and butterflyed my hand on a piece of rock?

Gilmore plays Big Bottom with Spinal Tap?! That's awesome

Crap I've got a bit more, sorry for the verbage. This doesn't directly relate to the problem above, since I don't think there is instability going on. But it's a common wrist injury in climbers (instability that is). I've tweaked my wrist climbing before and get sharp stabbing pains randomly, like picking up my coffee cup or turning a doornob, but not always. I felt a signifcant restiction of my ulan on my carpals so I self adjusted it. I got a big painful POP, and I iced it and put a wrist splint on for two days, then used it only when driving my powerless-stearing truck. Now it's better. Of course many wrists can become unstable and can click and pop all over the place. Adjusting probably isn't a good idea here (unless a significant restriction is making other bones have abbarent motions). Strengthening the flexors and extensors, pronators/supinators evenly, and maybe a brief period of immobilization is a good idea for the unstable wrist. Finally, prolotherapy is a 2nd to last resort, surgery being the end all of things to try last. A lunate dislocation (VISI) can cause severe carpal instability and lead to carpal collapse, a no no.

I forgot to ask, "any NEW clicking poping or grinding now when you circle your wrist around?"

Ok, from that I'd have to guess (and it's just a guess), that you quickly dislocated/relocated your lunate, which is the most unstable carpal bone in your wrist. It makes sense based on your history and need to flex your wrist when pulling down. You can go a few routes. 1. do nothing and see if it gets better or worse 2a. see your family doc --> get anti-inflamm, or pain killers, or both -->get diagnosed with mild wrist sprain. Doc says come back if it gets worse. 2b.Doc refers you to a physical therapist, PT does muscle work, mobilizations, and ultrasound. 2c.Doc refers you to Orthopedist, hopefully a wrist specialist. Orthopod x-rays your wrist and does orthopedic tests. Maybe an MRI, but doubtful unless you don't get better. Orthopod calls it a wrist sprain, prescribes anti-inflamm, a wrist splint, and suggests you see a PT (see above). 3.You see a chiropractor who does wrists, harder to do in Washington since they are a bit more old-school in that lots only do spines. Look for a "sports chiro" or one with a sports med diplomate. Chiro does exact same thing as Ortho minus the anti-inflam and MRI (unless he/she thinks it's a tear of the triangular fibrocartilage or grade III strain---grade III strains are complete ruptures and are painless sometimes). Chiro evaluates your carpals and looks for an incomplete reduction of a dislocation (aka subluxation) and pops the carpal back into place. Chiros in WA don't do PT electrical modalities (they do in every other state and should in WA soon) but will work on the muscle/soft tissue just the same. So if I were you and wanted to get it looked at, I'd see a sports chiro first, and not just cuz I'm studying to be one. They will be cheaper and offer a bit more conservative treatment than your other options. A good place to start and see if it can be managed w/o drugs or surgery. If the chiro didn't think they could fix it, they'd refer you to an orthopedist, like your MD would. So basically a chiro is going to do most of the orthopedic and PT stuff for cheaper and less appointments/driving between two places (ortho and PT). I hate to say it, but I'd try and skip your MD on this one. If you're going to fix it yourself (and mind you, you can't fix a grade III tear...which you may or may not have...i doubt it w/o any swelling...but you never know) yes, ice, tape, self massage, and buy a cock-up wrist splint at fred meyer to wear for a couple weeks just to be safe.

It's almost impossilbe to diagnose this over the internet. Describe exactly where you feel the pain/warmth to help zero in on the structure(s) damaged. Does it hurt when you flex or extend your wrist and or fingers against resistance? If so, where does it hurt. Does it hurt to passively more your wrist or fingers into flexion or extension at the end range of movement, and is there any abnormal movement, motion, excessive motion, or restricted motion...if so where and how? Have you noticed a decrease in strength? Have you noticed any swelling, discoloration, numbness, or tingling? My best guess is your completely ruptured a finger pulley tendon since there is no pain.

The Haunted Wall on Spectre Pk has the ghost of an expensive rap sling on it

Just north of Smith it'll be much warmer with a high of 57 and a low of 39, but with a 50% chance of POP. You're call. Trout Creek in the rain, or Smith in a post apocolyptic nuclear winter absolute zero approching hell...but definately dry as 0% mean absolutely no chance of rain, as should be expected in those temps.

I appologize, my mistake! It'll be a low of -30,000 degees, not -3,000. Matter may not even exist at those temps, so bundle up! For: 4.1 miles southeast of Metolius. Tonight Partly<br>Cloudy, Partly Cloudy Thursday Partly<br>Cloudy, Partly Cloudy Thursday Night Partly<br>Cloudy, Windy Partly Cloudy Windy Friday Partly<br>Cloudy, Windy Partly Cloudy Windy Friday Night Partly<br>Cloudy, Partly Cloudy Saturday Sunny, Sunny Saturday Night Clear, Clear Sunday Sunny, Sunny Sunday Night Clear, Clear Lo -30000°F Hi 36°F Lo -30000°F Hi 35°F Lo -30000°F Hi 35°F Lo -30000°F Hi 34°F Lo -30000°F PoP 0% PoP 0% PoP 0% PoP 0% PoP 0% PoP 0% PoP 0% PoP 0% PoP 0%

According to the NWS, it will be 0% chance of precip, but slighly chilly during the day with a high in the 30's, but pretty cold at night with a low in the -3,000 degress, so I'd suggest a day trip.

you are a wonderful human being Mr Man!

can't seem to find them, the computer crashes every time I search. Anyone know where the mods to cobras threads are located...ya know to make em all leashless n' shit?