Alex

Sat - worked on the house all day, mudding and taping, painting some walls. Worked on the boat. Watched Harry Potter 2. Sun - worked on the house most of the day, tried to get out to 38 in the evening but it was soaking wet. Tried to go to gym, but it was closed. Listened to Mariners choke again. Watched Thirteen. Monday - worked ou the house most of the day. Got plain sick of it!!#?!@ Tried to go to 32, but weather looked suck towards the East, so went to gym and pulled plastic til 7. Finally some exercise! Went shopping to Home Depot, home and watched The Godfather (I'd never seen it!)

wait, no, minx you're hot too, that would just be a damn waste.

alright and we do have Beyonce...! Or is Beyonce canadian too? Alls I know is like every climbing chix I've ever met from the Great White North was hotter than a Smith summer.

5?? 5 would be some record or something. I can scarce remember the time when I've seen more than 1 or 2 real Prana-clad climbing bettys at Smith. Americans are fat, weak, and ugly. Oh Canada!

The weekend

Yeah, you were one system too far left. The route we took went up to where the main gully "splits", up about another 2-300 vert of the main (left) branch, then traversed left a short way over a thin rock rib, straight up past some AI2+, then a step right to the final pitch below the main notch you see just up and to the right of your guys bail point.

Wow, there is very little snow on DTail already!

matt_m, if you were with a girl, it was us. Otherwise, it wasnt. But everyone who headed up there knows the feeling of almost taking a digger onto route 2 from the moss-covered wet slabs! Alex

totally !!

shapp, at what point did you pass groundfall potential? Yes, its true people often whip right up City Park. However, this thread is about someone learning to aid climb, and asking about City Park as a good learning tool. As such, let em sew it up and learn how to bounce something before they crater their first day out!

In a similar vein to another post, Marmot's current sale isnt too bad. They have some clothing that's pretty fairly priced. Last night I picked up a pair of sz L shoeller pants and nice sz L pat Synchilla thingy. I was most surprised that they had any sz L things at all, but there were still good items to be had here and there.

I've done the route, and I think its a worthy route to do IF you are also doing other things in the area. Don't drive all the way from Seattle just to climb this route. I have other, better, suggestions for you if that's your plan. As far as "hard/easy", I think that as its published, it is easier: there are a few harder moves to what I would call Leavenworth 5.9, but the climb is not sustained. There is one move in particular (a crux move) that goes pretty easy if you are 6' or over and can reach, but much harder if you are short. Most of the pitches are mediochre quality (compared to what you are surrounded with at WA Pass!!!) The last pitch is very good, though.

I think thats still close, but as you say the campaign hasnt really even started yet. I would like to see a popular and electoral vote that can't be hijacked by the Supreme Court or other family members who hold Governorships of Florida.

Now, there's an idea!!

I remember there being some really large cracks at the Shurman level of the Winthrop. I would suggest you just hoof it down the Interglacier, and go over the pass again to cross the Winthrop down lower. The Winthrop down low is a snooze.

prob Hozomeen

Thin Fingers is actually a pretty easy route for Index. Its sinker hands all the way up. Here is a brief stab at something similar to the "Crack List" in your second link Index Cracks: 5.8 p1 Even Steven p1 that approach pitch to GNS, forget its name - wide p1 GM "5.9" - these are all pretty real for 5.9s Toxic Shock p1 Jap Gardens Godzilla Rogers Corner p1 Davis Holland 5.10a p2 GM -> Heart of the Country as one pitch sinker great practice for Thin Fingers! Breakfast of Champions - more great practice for Thin Fingers! "5.10a" Libra Crack - thin hands! Saggitarius - long pitch with everything! hard 5.10 Davis-Holland on UTW Godzilla p2 and Slow Children Thin Fingers (I dont think its 11a at all, sorry) 5.11 Even Steven, upper Iron Horse others I am not good enough to climb

I went to the gym. It was damn hot and stuffy.

ken4ord, I was the guy who removed the thread prematurely, sorry about that. I had read it and thought you had your question answered, but missed where you asked for route recomendations, so just ditched it. Sorry!

Please don't make me go back to the gym!! IceIceBaby doesnt have a car... I can meet in Eastgate or points East after 4:30.... Alex

yes

A post supporting Leland. You, and only you, are responsible for your actions and choices in the mountains.

assmonkey is right on. if your SO digs climbing, let her progress at her own pace, not your pace for her. if her issue really is exposure, it will take a long time for her to get over it. I suggest you top-rope climbs at Castle and Index, such as S Face Jello Tower or Godzilla, to work on her comfort level with real exposure. Greg_W also raises an important point, spouses and SOs rarely make the best teachers for climbing: if you have a good male or female climbing friend you can trust to teach your SO, instead of you teaching, it might be really good to do that and mix it up. If your SO really likes the climbing, it wont matter to her that much who she is climbing with. If, however, her issue is that she is climbing primarily for you, to be with you, then she will not be interested in climbing with anyone else, and eventually her interest and progression might plateau or cease.

thats a frickin' STEAL! even w/o the trailer

Where's the damn monkey, Tom? Did you give up the monkey and go to a kite??