Alex

I did this route in April 1994 as a snow climb. If you go right after the hiway opens you'll encounter no difficulties. a single axe and crampons should get you through - though there is a spot where the snow gets pretty thin and you might have to scratch up some lower angled rock. Here is a pic:

too funny! laughing my ass off!

I'll go S if someone wants to carpool..? Otherwise wherever... Alex

actually I read a TR on this site a few months ago about a winter climb of del campo...? sounded really fun! do a search... Alex

wayne, I have never seen it. can you bring to next pup club?

good news about anwr

holy sheit, you had 4? I had 2 and it was clearly too much for my lame ass

hehe. true enough iain. silver lining is if you use the fatty rope your prussiks wont slip as much!!

I'll go. Ballard Ale hizzouse or Sloop. If we get drunk enough at the sloop we can take my boat out and party in the freezing cold on the Sound!

damn. I wanted to go to vantage but could not convince my friend to do the drive. he wanted to go to leavenworth, which I suspected would be wet. I ended up going to REI and getting a new, painfully fucking tight pair of moccasyms with my bountiful dividend. I am such a hipocrite - I hate REI and yet I still manage to blow huge chunks of cash there. Bastards!!

no. its been raining at 5000 for 4 days now. a la nina might form for winter of 2003/2004...hopefully colder than this year has been.

This was a nice issue. I liked the Eiger stuff alot, really nice full-page shots in there. The "historical climb" sounds hairball!!! Rare shots of local climber and guide Geoff ("Radical") Radford on Gasherbrum w Tom Hargis. Geoff was one of the guys who went up Lib Ridge with me in April one year, where we cooked salmon steaks at Thumb Rock!

Wheres the Cougar??

snowing in Redmond... ....ah winters finally here.....on March 7th!

I thought Vanshing Point was that nice 5.8 pillar over on the Sunshine Wall at Vantage.

Amber's got competition!

most people just hike up the road, then drop down through the burn/cut to the routes. minimize the pain!

nice! yeah, I think many parties have this experience; everyone I know who has climbed the route (myself included) expected more technical terrain than the route offered. But thats not to say it isnt an awesome, fun route! It really is, one of the best settings to climb in in the Cascades for sure! nice job!

cool. those flows are well known and provide some fun climbing to WI4 w/ easy approach and usually better ice than Hubba Hubba et al. I think there are around 10 named routes in there right now; we tried to sort it all out in the guide, but its hard to know if we got it all since those things are so accessible and have been climbed on for years. Alex

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Location and approach directions are in upcoming guide. Soon you all will be able to sample the sufferfest to your hearts content!

script kids who hack well known bbs software shouldnt impress anyone...

Colonel, there might be more than one Stihl hat in that joint! KING5, usually there are a fair number of people clubbing, most of whom know each other, but don't be afraid to ask around for "cascade climbers". The first time I went to one of these no one knew anyone else, and it took a while to consolidate... Might be good if one of Die Regulars describes some way to figure out who we all are, since looking for the more subtle signs (climbing cloths, that beedy eye, a Stihl hat) might not work for non-climbing newsies especially if its crowded.