Gene-
I'm just getting into aid but I know enough not to get myself killed. As far as the bounce test I don't remember the specific instance but you could be right. But I don't recall bounce testing a piece that was below another piece (and I don't want to watch the video right now again). Sure there was inefficiency, that was my first full aid pitch. I was worried more about dangerous mistakes, of which I pretty sure there were none. Now, if that was A4 it would be another thing. Thanks for the time you took to help out. As for your advice about try, read, ect... that is spot on. Works well for alpine, trad so I'm sure it works for aid.