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thanks all for the input. thanks, hemp, for the note on skull cap durability! i'm replacing an 11-year-old half dome, which has a 2-inch crack. looking for an ultra-light partially b/c i travel for climbing a fair bit, and want an option of carrying a little less weight with me. not because i need convincing to wear a helmet in the first place. the armour looks nice, but is 4+ oz heavier than meteor, skull cap, and especially the speed. that's about equal to an extra bd shorty screw, or both a green and a yellow alien that i could throw into my pack during the approach.

hi all, i'm in the market for a new rock helmet, and am looking for something lightweight. advice/reviews would be greatly appreciated. note: i'm considering the trango skull cap - anyone on here have one? i've looked at the meteor iii, but it makes my head look like it's 2 feet tall, and i'm all about looking pretty while i send. thanks!

great report, and an excellent climb! the difference in the facial hair is a good proof of the time spent on the wall

sound of music! nice job and great route descriptions!

wow, awesome! great matching beards, too.

hilarious. the summit picture might as well be captioned "motley crew". i love reading reports where people have all sorts of unintended adventures, route finding shenanigans, tent-less nights, gear loss, time shortages, etc... and yet still make it sound fun and have good humor about it. right on. and thanks!

daaaaaaaaang. looks like a quality weekend! thanks for the stoke!!!

holy shenanigans! i'm glad you squeezed this one in before she took off for school! nice work!

awesome. you look mighty relaxed in those pictures, mrs. rat! light and fast!

i know, great example - i really didn't like it when someone else posted that picture of me. don't you think it should have been discussed with me first, in private?

civility. no need to get defensive.

i agree - a discussion among the climbing parties is very important prior to posting, and definitely shows tact and consideration. however, on this forum we rely on posters' objective, honest, and complete representation of the climb. this site isn't exactly a peer-reviewed publication - the trip reports aren't curated and data isn't verified. therefore, an accurate report is all we can hope for when reading. to me, the trip reports serve three main purposes: 1) data on route (i wouldn't want to be mislead when following beta presented here), 2) information about potential climbing partners (i wouldn't want to be mislead about someone's ability if, say, zloi contacted me and asked me to go climbing), 3) and entertainment value and stoke for the lucky climbers who get to have the good times. this particular report gives a lot of great info. it was made publically available by choice. ed has a question that doesn't seem all that unreasonable to me - most people chime in when their partners put up climbing trip reports, and "stfu" isn't really the most polite (tactful, considerate - see above) of responses.

1) why isn't this a forum to discuss climbing safety? why isn't it relevant, all of a sudden? 2) not all eastern europeans are crazy/reckless/suicidal/etc. let's not get into nationalistic typing. 3) i may be wrong and you did actually mean slovaks, but i'm pretty sure that most of people steve climbs with are from slovenia, not slovakia.

wow, really loved reading this one! beautiful photo, very unusual.

right on, val! great climb!

woo-hoo! what an awesome place! got my ass kicked on a sweet 5.6 called shockley's ceiling (and more) this weekend. here's a historical picture (yes, dick williams is naked on it) of the crux move.

nice pictures, and good to see that you guys made it back down. why zero love for the skier who fetched the rangers for ya? edit: cool.

great work! love the stoke in your report!

yeah - when i was looking for value options for the burgundy and chablis (pernod is not even a wine), i was rather disappointed. couldn't they have called one of the spires franzia or carlo rossi? or at least something that comes in a two-buck-chuck option at trader joe's? i like where this "lost and found" thread has veered off to

TR: doug and i took a little drinking/camping trip up to the wine spires by dragging a bottle of burgundy and bottle of chianti up there. we climbed a little (on burgundy and chianti SHA-HAH!), but it was so hard, and drinking was so much more fun that we just stuck with that for the sake of continued enjoyment of the trip. the end.

no problem! hey, i never got your p.m., but sent one to you.

how appropriate! i brought a little vodka bottle to our ascent of borah last year, and doug and i dragged a bottle of burgundy and a bottle chianti to... burgundy and chianti peaks in north cascades a few weeks ago. cheers!

wow, some scramble! awesome! and nice to meet you, mark - have a good rest of your week in the PNW!

don't get me wrong - i agree with most of what he wrote. i mostly agree with previous posters about the sugar statements, exercise, etc. the assertion of reasons for vegan diet (combination of ethical/spiritual/mental factors that go beyond "I want to lose weight/have ripped abs/climb ----/etc") is not necessarily true for everyone. there's a pretty strong physical component to this lifestyle. i just think it's possible that some individuals eat the way they do because they happen to truly like it, because it just happens to actually work for them - even if it looks like deprivation, or "bizarre" or "radically exclusive" to some. sorry for the tangent.

awesome. thanks for the condish update.