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Yeah, I second that. At first I had thought it was a set-up, until seeing a hold break. I have never seen anyone being so careless when clipping anchors. Serves him right

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my older brother is mentally challenged. we grew up constantly fighting off bullies. it was very sad and still is to think back on it. so, i cant help but clench my fist when i see or hear someone making "retard" comments. often taken too far, even if its meant as a joke.

hmm, I didnt get the memo. send me an email... J

you have? Where and what? Kevy: I've seen you solo!!!!!!!!!!!! Punk! I was not bagging on soloing.....Yes I have soloed plenty but I was saying it is not realy accepted, climbers who watch or see others solo....kind of have to either take it or leave that area. Yes...I have soloed classic crack....can you hear my chestthumping???? Just try to relax... we're on the same side. Giving you a hard time But about that hip belay!! ....that might be a different story.

yeah- i was wondering the same thing...

Glad to know he wasn't at his limit! Tell your other friend thank you again for offering a hand and his quick attention. Nothing like letting a total stranger give a firemens belay... I remember looking at him straight in the eye and feeling in my bones that he had me. What a day... oh and the sunset too!

you have? Where and what? Kevy: I've seen you solo!!!!!!!!!!!! Punk!

Sounds like we need to dog pile in Kevbones mini-van for a weekend getaway to visit uncle Mark!!

Mark: he wasn’t on the 11+ when I swung over to say hi. I'll ask Jaime what the climbs were. The swing occurred ~3/4 high on Critical Mass, he was right and lower of me... warming up, but not snoop style I understand the history of soloist with some level of respect but it scares me to see how it is becoming more and more accepted and glorified in the magazines. Just my opinion. I don’t want to be around it and find it disturbing that this climber traveled so closely to us. To his credit, I am amazed by his physical and mental strength. Looked to be 5.13+ climber. These guys keep pushing the limits til one day..... Kaboom.

Good information.

I think the trick would be not only buy him a new one but to take his old one. while stealing things from him, might as well take the smokes too - poor bastard sounds like a 1-man anti-smoking commercial! My vote is to hold it for ransom so he will quit the smokes

So what happens if while I'm climbing, a soloist decides to begin climbing closely near the line I am working on, I crux out, fall, swing far enough that I end up bumping/hitting into him (which almost occurred yesterday, seriously) and knock him off the wall? Is it my fault? Does his family sue me? I for the rest of my life carry the pain of this accident and have nightmares. Q: why would someone solo so closely to another party? Is that fair? What if we were there first?

Well, Jaime would know for sure. I was getting beat down and trying not paying too much attention to the soloist. I have to admit, I was bothered by his actions b/c not only was I worried about myself and falling -in addition to the safety of my partner- having someone troll around UNROPED just added too much stress and worry about sh_t going down and people getting hurt. Climbing is stressful enough and to deal with wreckless (IMO) behavior takes away from *my* selfish experience I guess... I just assume leave the crag when seeing a climber playing with death. Maybe next time I will.

not sure, it was near Crytical Mass. I was climbing during this epic feat in which my belayer was standing there in shock. but they had a full blown conversasion. This dude warmed up on an easier line (far right of crytical mass) that starts up a colum and vears to the left. He was down climbing too. Totally sick! Kev: i meant to tell you this last night... i almost took him out on a pendulum fall while on TR.

Yeah boys, at the Alibi Friday night whooping it up with the Birthday kid til 4 am ! Left drivers license and credit card at that smoke pit! Bummer.... Feeling rough as expected but sounds like it was too windy there and didnt want my vomit to splatter everyone and the rock. I did however have an excellent day out at Broughtens yeserday. No wind, sunny with warm spots. Although I did get my hair caught in the belay device during a wrap-off!!! Oh yeah, some young stud was there soloing up this 11+! No joke, ask Jaime...

*hmph*!

"I wish I knew how to quit you!"

Kev? Why aren't you wiz'n around? Call you tonight.

clever

wiz quiz?? No, I'm not into safety meetings, however, someone needs to supervise. Three people simo-climbing, not game for that. The 1st would have to be anchored. Also, I would need to know all parties very well and have climbed with them before. Call me if you decide to head out...

Snoop: once I know the line better, I'll place gear... I get lost easily. Safety first!

Ah, *high* noon on the ledge. Well.... I'm not going to solo up there. Be happy to simo-climb as a third party. Somebody take me!!! I'll travel last, that way being hung-over if I end up ...... it will hopefully be some wanker wearing black socks, white shoes with shorties.

Kevbone: it was a joke... kinda. As long as I'm not too hung over, I will be there at high noon. JosephH: PM me your phone number.

touche!